Fifth-generation aircraft will be flown in the year
Jun 19, 2009
AVIA.RU – fifth-generation combat aircraft will be lifted into the air before the end of the year, the press service of Russian Defense Ministry with reference to the Chief of the Armed Forces of weapons – the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Vladimir Popovkina.
“He (fifth-generation aircraft) should be away from the earth the first time this year”, – said V. Popovkin. “We have reason to say that the timing will move, no,” – said V. Popovkin.
This is the second source!
Thanks Otaku for your translation:):)
In my opinion the date for the first flight of PAK-FA in this video.Can somebody translate the conversation about it?
Pogosyan has said in yesterday’s interview to federal TV channel, that “WE WILL SEE IT IN 2009”!!!I hope it’s true..
I would like to see Turkey in this project because of this projects technological advances for Turkey and Turkey’s contributions for this project.
In my opinion “static display at Maks 2009” like su-35 “first flight in 2009 or early 2010” and “presentation to the world media like SSJ100 at Farnbrough airshow in England” But maybe they can make a suprise at Suhoi’s foundation anniversay or Maks 2009!!!
Sure If we believe all the official statements!!!
Russian Defense Ministry hopes to have this year off the fifth-generation aircraft
Fifth-generation combat aircraft will be lifted into the air before the end of the year, said Wednesday at a press conference, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Vladimir Popovkin arming.
“He (fifth-generation aircraft) should be away from the earth the first time this year”, – said V. Popovkin.
“We have reason to say that the timing will move, no,” – said Deputy Minister of Defense.
Vladimir Popovkin said that the plane will have a lot of new elements. “The airframe – this will be the fifth generation aircraft. The engine is 4 +++”, – he said.
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Source:http://www.aviaport.ru
Date:17.06.2009
If this aircraft doesn’t fly this year than I don’t think to check news about PAK-FA since it flies.Because it shows that, there is no official to trust about the news of PAK-FA!!!
“Dry” period of time called the first flight of fighter 5 th generation
The “dry” can begin testing the new fifth-generation fighter “after two years.” This, according to Interfax, 16 June at Le Bourget said the company’s general director Mikhail Pogosyan.
According to him, is not yet time to talk about the new plane. At the same time he admitted that a substantive conversation about testing the fifth-generation aircraft could take place during the air show in Farnborough, to be held in 2010.
Pogosyan said that “dry” is working on building the experimental samples. “Preparing for the start of the test. Holding talks with Indian counterparts on joint participation in this project,” – said the director.
Russian fifth generation fighter is expected to be slabozametnym for radar, high-speed aircraft, equipped with sophisticated electronic equipment.
Currently, the fifth generation fighter F-22 and F-35 are produced only in the United States, but by the U.S. Army had only the first of them. The second project funded by the U.S. in conjunction with partner countries.
Source: news agency “Lenta.Ru”
Published: 16.06.2009, 15:59
Comments?
Pictures or sources from the show please!!!:)
Good news at Farnbrough please Mr.Pogosyan:)In my opinion at Le bourget they just want to get attention about SSJ100.Not the military products!!!
A nice chinese comment about the crash and it says Su-35 is the best aircarft after F-22!!!!
Chen Hu Soldiers: Su -35 damage test planes will have an impact on international competition
According to Russian media reports, Moscow time at 11 o’clock on April 26 about a Su -35 fighter prototype in the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Production Company airport take-off roll, the collision to the barrier, the aircraft burst into flames and completely destroyed. With test pilot ejection escape system successfully.
So what is a type -35 what kind of fighter? Russia’s Su-what kind of expectations placed -35?. -35 Damage to the flight Soviet Union in the future advanced fighter what impact the international situation? This week, “Chen points, soldiers” will work with you to concern.
Chen Hu: A fighter aircraft accident, there damage is not very special thing. Prior to this, a lot of fighters also had a similar accident or failure, including the United States F-22 crash. -35 However, the Soviet Union, it is a test of the advanced fighter aircraft, but the Russian military equipment in the country and its exports have high hopes, therefore, it is in flight caused the damage will certainly be no small impact.
First of all, you may be concerned about the Soviet Union is -35 what kind of fighter? If you see pictures of it, more experienced enthusiasts soon will find its shape and the Soviet Union was like -27. Indeed, the Su-Su -35 to -27 is a member of the last family, and some media called it the Su family -27 “Terminator.”
Russia to the Soviet Union known as the four generations of -35 + +-type aircraft, designated the West, mutatis mutandis, on behalf of methods, the Russian equivalent of four generations of machines of the three generations of aircraft to Western standards, the Russian equivalent of the Five Dynasties and the Western standard machine four generations machine. In that case, the so-called “fourth generation + +”, according to Western standards should be regarded as third-generation semi-planes.
It is worth mentioning that, Russia Why do we need two “+” to the SU -35? In fact, Soviet Russia in order to express the performance of -35 over the western half of the three generations of fighters, so the four generations of the Soviet Union known as the -35 + + type. For example, in France the “gust”, developed by the European Union “wind”, which are internationally recognized three generations of a typical semi-planes. Russia believes that it is -35 in the Soviet Union to surpass the overall performance of the so-called third-generation semi-planes, so it called a four-generation + + such a title.
“Four generations + +” worthy of the name you
Chen Hu: In that case, this title is not true then? So we can take a closer look at the performance and characteristics of -35.
Now the most advanced fighter aircraft, such as the U.S. F-22, F-35, which is recognized by all four generations of a typical machine. A symbol of four generations of aircraft in general is one of the four major signs: stealth, supersonic cruise, super maneuverability, super-advanced airborne electronic systems, some people in the West it is called 4S. 4S standards with which all of the, at present only F-22, but the F-22 is now immediately to stop the.
In addition, F-35 actually have them in this part of the standard 4S. For example, F-35 has stealth ability.In addition, the electronic equipment it is quite advanced, so it at least two “S”. As for the other two “S”, F-35 is a supersonic cruise does not have the capacity; in mobility, in accordance with the comments now, F-35’s mobility in general and the three generations of the same machine, so that the “S” do not have. Nevertheless, F-35 or the so-called fourth generation machine.
So then we will look at the -35 “four generations + +.” The basic performance of its two prominent characteristics. First, it has the capacity of the supersonic cruise. -35 Should be said that the Soviet Union is the second F-22 and the Soviet Union was the MiG -31 interceptor, the world’s third cruise with supersonic fighter capabilities. In other words, it has a “S”. In addition, the mobility, the Soviet Union also have the -35 extraordinary mobility. It is mainly realized through two ways. First, its dynamic thrust vector system, the attention of the Soviet Union to see the end of the -35 engine nozzle, the end of its nozzle can be moved, the direction of jet can be adjusted. With this, it would have greatly improved mobility. In addition, Su -35 body a lot of aerodynamic control surfaces, that is, it is a lot of wings, small wings can be fixed. Well, the aerodynamic control surfaces of these fly-by-wire system through a system after the use and control, it can produce some extraordinary maneuverability. For example, an instant change point to the nose, and even the aircraft in flight could have a parallel course of the effect of mobile.This so-called super-mobility, it is said there will be fighting at close range is highly desirable.
From these two aspects, the Su-4S have -35 of them in fact two “S”. Similarly, F-35 is also the two “S”. So there is no stealth performance of -35, so Russia has not yet put it into the equivalent of the West’s so-called fourth-generation fighters Five, but also more conservative. But it does than the average of three generations and three generations of aircraft to more than half a chip.
Chen Hu: before, the United States a number of research departments in the demonstration F-35 when their combat capability, air combat simulation was done. Simulation result of the new F-35 fighter jets before the big loss, when the opponent to do this simulation is the SU -35. From here we can see that the Soviet Union the overall combat capability of -35 should be said to be very superior. If we simply look at performance in terms of air combat, it should be said, it is only to the United States F-22 fighter-type advanced fighter. In addition, the fighter should be said that the electronic system is quite advanced. 4S we have just mentioned There is also a “S” is an advanced airborne electronic systems. An advanced airborne electronic systems or the core of what is marked on the aircraft is equipped with phased array fire control radar search. So the equipment is ready to -35 precisely, one Taiwan “snow,” phased array airborne radar. From this perspective, it is actually accounted for 4S among three “S”, and only a stealth performance difference.
So head -27 family members have a very strong set bombs. In accordance with the relevant media reports, the Soviet Union mounted -35 maximum capacity of 8 tons can be achieved, there are 12 plug-in points, which indicates that it can carry a lot of weapons. And as a result of aircraft size, and so can hold a lot of oil, it also has a range and combat radius on the major. It is said that it is not linked to the case of drop tank can reach a maximum range of 3600 kilometers, the linkage can be achieved when the drop tank 4500 kilometers. If converted into a combat radius, this would be 1500-2000 km. These features are quite prominent. This indicates that the aircraft’s air combat performance, but also have strong long-range attack capability.
It is precisely because the Soviet Union was -35 superior performance, the Russian high hopes for this aircraft. In accordance with the Russian military that the next time they may be part of Su -35 fighter procurement. Zelin said the Russian air force commander-in-chief, prepared to allow two or three missions -35 learn how to use the Soviet Union. In fact, Russia has to -35 as a Russian Su-generation machines from four to five generations of a transition machine transition models. At the same time, exports of Russia’s Su -35 pinned high hopes on the international market, it is said that some countries have already sent to the Soviet Union Order -35.
We can see that the SU -35 is a great level of performance “of a machine under the machine on top of million” posture. Therefore, once the international market, international markets may be US-made aircraft, a dominance of the state of forming a large impact.
Russia’s efforts have suffered setbacks
Chen Hu: It is now, Su -35 prototype flight occurred during the events of this kind of damage, the first test flight will affect the SU -35 stereotypes, loaded out, the production time. In accordance with the present situation, it So I think that the -35 to delay the development process in at least six months to a year or even longer. Stereotypes test out equipment, production time will directly affect the delay of the Russian Air Force equipment. In other words, in the next period of time, the Russian Air Force’s high hopes for this aircraft will not immediately enter the Air Force. Russian Air Force to wait for the new equipment that would further lengthen the cycle.
35 Test damaged the Soviet Union have a greater impact on events is the international competition of advanced fighter planes, as well as advanced warplanes of the impact of market share.
We know that in almost half a century after the time a fighter has been in the area of the Soviet Union (the United States and Russia) the situation of hegemony, the United States Department of the Department of Russian fighter planes and fight each other thunder.
20th century 60’s, when the Soviet Union and the United States -21 MiG F-4 “Phantom” fighters for hegemony; to the 80’s after the United States on F-15, F-16, F-18 and the Soviet Union Su -27 series, each series of -29 m for the limelight.
Since the 21st century, Russia inherited the Soviet Union, such a status. But its a plummeting economy, a substantial attenuation of the whole national strength. Under the circumstances, it is in the new machine there断档situation. At that time, the United States launched a new generation of F-22 and F-35 fighters, while Russia would only serve to keep the Soviet Union to improve and amend the -27 series of fighter aircraft.
Until the F-35 into the development phase, this state appears to be a little subtle changes. Because the United States in F-22 production after a certain amount of equipment, and the current F-22 is to determine the non-exports. As a result, the United States a large number of advanced fighters and equipment into the F-35, able to market into the future, is also vying for market share fighter F-35. At the same time, Russia’s Su -35 fighter has entered the mid-and late stages of flight. Su -35 fighter in terms of overall performance, in some extent, the United States beyond the F-35. As a result, Russia in the downturn after a period of time, and finally there is hope in the pattern of international advanced fighter aircraft which made a re-positioned to -35 with the Soviet Union in the future advanced fighter to win a piece of the export market competitive.
And now, the prototype Su -35 damaged in flight, bound for Russia’s ambition is a big blow. At the same time, to some extent, the United States will continue to maintain a dominance of the advanced fighters of the situation.
Damaged in the process of the prototype, there is another episode: the plane did not leave the ground state, the pilot ejected to use to escape the system. This from another angle -35 Su said that the ejection escape system performance indeed, but before that, it’s the system there are a lot of outstanding performance. However, this is, after all, only a sub-system. A fighter can not escape the system by virtue of its performance has become the world’s most advanced fighter planes, it is impossible to occupy so large an international market.
It appears that in the next five years or even longer, the Russian would like to re-establish it in the advanced fighter aircraft’s position in this field, while the advanced fighter aircraft in the international export market, a share of the efforts to be a lot of setbacks.
April 30, 2009 17:17:01 Source: Xinhua
Putin “saved” yet another plant: the creators of secret Russian fighter promised not to dismiss
At KnAAPO where secrecy created a Russian fifth generation fighter PAK FA, began reducing the workforce. Already released 80 people, it is possible that further optimization of the number – previously referred to the reduction of more than a thousand people.However, the negative glow of the factory management and workers able to pay visit to KnAAPO Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. The factory told about the agreement between Putin and the head of AKH “Sukhoi” Mikhail Pogosyanom, however, the document still has not been seen.In these circumstances, continuing the creation of a super secret PAK-FA, the first flight by the Prime Ivanov promises already this year.
The “Komsomolsk-on-Amur aviation production merge them. Gagarin (KnAAPO included in AKH” Dry “), the reduction started on 3 June, laid off about 80 people – told the factory trade union representative Paul Arslanova.But according to him, formally, by the time some people went to the factory yourself: “Knowing that the reductions can not be avoided, some employees chose to do so in advance by writing a statement on the resignations.” In this promise, that skilled workers, including those who collect PAK FA, reduction did not affect – mostly retirees KnAAPO fired.Would have dismissed, is not yet known.
However, at the plant believe that large-scale reductions KnAAPO rescued May visit Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, who showed the most secret development of Russia in recent years – the fifth generation multipurpose fighter PAK FA – to create it in the shops KnAAPO. It can be assumed that seen but not yet the finished product impressed the Premier, and he promised the company new orders.
“After the visit of Vladimir Putin, we were told that he and Mikhail Pogosyan (Chapter aviaholdinga” Dry “, approx.) signed some agreement guaranteeing boot KnAAPO new products. However, this document has still not been seen. But there is a shift to increased rates tariff level, for which we fought all the time. Zavodskaya administration has decided to meet the team and from September will be made to recalculate it, “- said Paul Arslanov.
But as the case with construction of the PAC FA – are still unknown. At KnAAPO flatly refused to discuss this topic – it had a subscription to withhold information containing state secrets. As the correspondent of “New Region” secret PAK FA is indeed strictly protected – for several years in the media do not trickled no one photo of this development, and its layout has never publicly demonstrated. Now the special variety of countries and simple avialyubiteli burned with curiosity, and the last cheat the interpretation of the look of the car. Judging by the majority of images, almost all artists compare with the Russian aircraft F-22 Raptor – features “American” guessed almost all the outline.
Meanwhile, based on statements by government officials who promise to fly PAK FA in 2009, it can be assumed that the center’s secret airplane is almost ready. This gives hope that the statement by Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov term sailplane PAK FA will be able to really try. However, whether there are working engines and avionics – the big question. At the same time aware that the draft budget-2009 funding for the development of the PAC FA were going to cut to 938.1 million rubles.
Source: Information Agency «New Region»
Published: 05.06.2009, 17:09
plz explain to me how you see that there is very little composite materials on this wreck??
Thanks
I couldn’t see something composite at this wreck.Could you see something similar composite or fired composite gaps at anywhere.If you could please share with me!I have an F-35 picture shows how much composite materials have used at this aircraft!!!
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It seems like they apply very small amount of composite materials at the aircraft’s body.(It’s body still seems like standart su-27).I couldn’t see any big gaps at the body or at the wings of the aircarft (or something composite).Where is 5th generation technologies.Radar of the aircarft is not AESA, the engine is a development of the AL31F.Just avionics are looking like 5th gen!!!Maybe it’s enough…:)