no, those pics were probably never used by TAI at all..
most likely medal just took some fan art and tried to make it official
its not the first time either.. he’s tried to pass off other crappy cg models such as
http://www.turkmilitary.com/data/media/291/-thk-stealth-concept-fighter.jpg
etc and etcthe only thing it accomplishes is that it makes Turkey look bad.
I don’t know if what is your problem but i have never presented it as an official picture, but if your logic wants to accept it as like that its your problem. How many times i must say that it has no relevance with the real bird, its too early yet :diablo:
You can be sure that Turkey will become one of the best at aviation industry and im sure from that. Before your comments only check this thread how many i have posted than advise you think again!!!
stop passing off fan art as official pictures. you’re making TAI and Saab look bad.
I didn’t claimed it as official pictures already too early yet, just wanted to share this picture with everybody, don’t know why it is taking such serious :rolleyes:
The source who posted it already claims that the bird is not this, it can be accepted as an fan art ๐
Lol… have they teamed up with Iran?
If you have an opportunity i advise you to visit the IDEF-2013 to see for whom Turkish companies teams up and do it themselves ๐ Its your choise if you want to take a representational picture as the real one but it still continues the conceptual design phase and still have a long time for it takes its final shape.
A picture which is claimed as the representational TF-X picture from the two-day International Air&Space Power (ICAP) Conference being held in Istanbul .
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For bigger one
http://i.imgur.com/YoPYF1c.jpg
I want to inform that its just an representational picture and after the conceptual design phase its waiting for a clear picture of the bird.
And some fresh news comes from the TF-X project, according the Mr. Murat Bayar Undersecretariat for Defence Industry Ministry of National Defence, for TF-X project instead of a few design derivatives its accepted one proposal and now they are working to advance this design. According to him because of the Turkey’s partnership with other nations for procurement of F-35 both aircraft will have different roles and the new aircrafts main role will be the A-A superiority. Its mainly targeted to replace with the F-16s.
Wish them good luck ๐
The flight of the T 50-4 can be a sign of T 50-5 for testing some new applications, technologies :rolleyes:
Sidebay gap looks different from the others, like it’s been sealed with something.
You are right as T 50-4 will be used for internal weapon bays and T 50-3 as conformal weapon bays too :rolleyes:
Youngest member on duty ๐
The estimated time of first flight was March-April.
But its still not confirmed and no any indicator.
Turkish industry makes a lot of components for airliners & helicopters, a variety of military electronics, has assembled hundreds of F-16s, & upgraded F-16s & various other types, but has no experience of designing high-performance aircraft.
I can imagine it assembling a fighter, supplying a lot of the components, sub-assemblies, & some of the electronics, & integrating its own weapons, but I think it’d need foreign design leadership, & would have to import engines, radar, & quite a few other critical elements.
We will see but as far as i know its designing by the Turkish specialists and taking suggestions from the universities as the technical support from the Saab company. As from the reports development work about the aesa radar is in progress at the Aselsan company also some progress about the jet engine too. But its sure there are some areas that Turkish defence industry have to get expertise too.
That’s more than a fine decission but again – and I hope I did not offend anyone since my question was simply a question – bu I have that strange feeling (as also noted by Hurriyet) that in mind of the requirements, technocal capabilities, budget and most of all desired solutions (“something in the class of may be PAK FA or J-20, i.e two-engine, heavy and maneoverable”) …. isn’t this a simply unrealistic altitude on behalf or the Turkish side ???
A medium-weight class fighter similar to a J-21/31 maybe but even this is a heavy burden … but something like a T50 !??? ๐ฎ
Deino
From the preliminary stages of the project its stated that the new aircraft is to be created mainly to replace the aging F-4 and F-16s and also it will be placed between F-16 and F-35 so i think it will be right an J-31/KF-X class aircraft with maybe bigger weapons bays to increase its bombing capabilities. And as for today its a serious target to create a new fighter aircraft but if we mention that this bird gonna be created in 2020s its so archievable with the Turkish defence industry’s increasing capabilities. Also i would like to inform that the agreement contains the techical equipment transfer too ๐
TURKEY PLANS TO CREATE THE FIRST FIGHTER WITH SWEDEN
Turkish company Turkish Aerospace Industry (TAI) and the Swedish SAAB Concern signed a memorandum of intent to establish the first Turkish fighter, said on Wednesday the newspaper Hurriyet Daily News. Turkey has the second largest army in NATO after the United States. Turkish military aircraft fleet consists mainly of F-16 fighters Fighting Falcon, collected in Ankara factory TAI, and the F-4 Phantom. In service with the Turkish Air Force aircraft F/RF-4E are 152 and 179 F-16 fighters. Another 10 F-16 aircraft ordered in the United States. As part of the modernization of the armed forces of Turkey also intends to purchase from U.S. 100 fifth-generation fighter F-35. Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan has repeatedly stated the need for domestic production of military equipment, including military aircraft, in order to reduce dependence on other countries in armaments . Following the instructions of the Prime Minister, Turkish officials have found a company that can help to achieve this goal – a Swedish SAAB, producing fourth generation multi-role fighter JAS 39 Gripen, writes Hurriyet Daily News. At the same time, the publication notes that representatives of the MIC are skeptical about the prospect of an ambitious project. “Development of the first Turkish fighter jet, according to military analysts, is a necessary but not a critical step. crucial here is that whether the project will get the ability to successfully Turkey integrated avionics, electronics and weapons systems in the selected platform “- holds newspaper quoted the expert. Turkey is planning to build its first fighter to 2023, but “it is – an unrealistic goal,” the newspaper says. “If the conceptual design work will take seven years from now, the technology on which the design will be based, to the time of production (aircraft) is highly outdated. Effective use of aircraft will need to have a time machine” – the newspaper.
http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2013/03/20/251508.html
According the sources this collaboration should accelerate the creation of the first Turkish fighter aircraft as practiced at the Altay MBT and T-129 Atak projects.
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A short post but welcome flateric ๐
Dear flateric, what’s the situation with T 50-5?