Hi Cees,

I am really only working on the one FN121. My dad is starting to dismantle another and there is a third being used for parts.

Originally there were five FN121’s.

Correct, we also have the FN16 too.

WOW

Is that a broken Mossie fuselage mould? Didn’t know any surviving. What’s the story?

Amazing 😮 what still survives to this day.

Cheers

Cees

I suspect that the weight may be total rather than of explosive. The reason for this being that when I found “my” SC50 whilst metal detecting on the foreshore at Whitstable, the chap from Navy EOD actually lifted it bodily from it’s hole. If it was 50kg of bang, plus weight of case, he’d have been struggling! (must find those photos!).

As for which aircraft could carried a Hermann, you will have to ask a better man than me… Sorry!

Adrian

(shrapnel makes a great paperweight, so long as you don’t mind interesting cuts in your paper!)

Dornier Do 217. In the eighties a Hermann was defused by a British UXB team.

Cheers

Cees

I have extensively researched both McPhail and Woodward’s loss as well as two other Whirlwinds that came down in the general area of the Channel Islands. I know the relative locations though there are strong tidal influences which would effect where the aircraft finally came to rest. However I am reluctant to release the information over the net as these sites are effectively war graves and should not be intentionally disturbed.

One thing to remember is that the Whirlwind was constructed of a magnesium alloy, little of which would survive in a salt water environment. I have seen the remains of one prop from McPhails aircraft, which basically bears this out.

AFAIK the rear fuselage used magnesium allow skinning, the rest of the aircraft was of aluminium construction, as Ian said salt water can do nasty things to aircraft structures, a fresh water location would be better. Steve Vizard is quoted as having a wish to reconstruct a Whirlwind, there are drawings about. We only need the opportunity to start such a project (how about funds allocated to a certain tin triangle)

Cees

It’s a new trend the last few years. More and more aircraft get a diesel conversion

Dornier started using diesel engines in the Do18 I believe. Using Jumo 205 engines. Junkers Ju86 also were fitted with diesels.

Cheers

Cees

The bomb loading diagram looks to be from an aircraft with three bombbays (or cells). The look is typically Britsh and I don’t think RAF Liberators (Coastal Command mostly) used SBC’s (Small Bomb Containers). I agree about the Wellington possibility because of it’s divided bomb compartments as well (the practise bombs and relatively small bombs mentioned also fit into this theory). The Hampden en Blenheim had small bomb compartments. I don’t know about the Whitley but if it had then Elliott would have said so 😉

The Stirling also had three long bomb compartments but carried heavier bombs I think.

Interesting thread, any more opinions?

Cees

A few years ago I was offered a similar spade grip for just 50 guilders (before the ^*^*^euro entered the scene) which was about 10 GBP. I turned it down at the time (but thas was before I started collecting myself). I still regret that 😮

Cheers

Cees