Phil,
You haven’t installed the fuel levers above the pilot’s postion and the very prominent guard around them. Will you be doing this anyway?
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Cees
thanks cees how can you tell?
Peter,
Shape of the “root” of the blade, the shape of the blade itself and also the pinkish colour showing through the black/green paint.
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Cees
Peter,
It’s German, VDM
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Cees
Off top of head TG 555 is probably in the HP Hastings range but probably be proved wrong.
Brian
Eeh, no :p
Cees
Mark,
It would make a nice carpet, but I would suggest to wipe your feet first…..
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Cees
Hei,
The diver told me that he had untill now found 3 engines, he also said that it feels, like the are laying up side down ( the visibility is allmost zero)
I hope to find out more later this week.best regards,
Mathieu
Mathieu,
Where does the diver come from? And is this wreck located in the norhteastern part of the IJsselmeer? If so then it is a Lanc ( a known one) and the fourth engine is on display at our museum. If he has found the centre fuselage and wings in one piece then there is no doubt about it. Apart from that there are still three missing crewmembers, I hope he knows what he is doing.
Any more news?
Cees
Peter,
Wel that leaves the following types to be found in large quantities in the IJselmeer then:
Lancaster I/III
Halifax II/V
Wellington II
Spitfire (various)
Hurricane I/II
Whitley V
Mosquito (various)
etc.
A bit more info would be great
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Cees
JDK,
Pesonally I think it would be a shame that these aircraft are not safe even in this day and age. Perhaps Rob Greinert can be of some help there as he is the godfather of historic aircraft in Oz.
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Cees
Especially given the Libyan leadership’s more receptive stance towards the west these days…
My theory has always been that when aircraft come down for whatever reason, they either get recovered or left, dependent usually on the terrain and conditions at the time. Recent years have seen – and still are seeing – some wonderful finds coming out of Russia, Papua New Guinea, northern Norway, Greenland etc, all of which are places where recovery would have been either impossible or impracticable during the war. Even if you made comparitively easy treks up many British hillsides in recent years, you’d have come across substantial sections of rare or extinct aeroplanes – Mickle Fell Stirling, Beaufighter tail on Aran Fawddwy, Whitley wings up on Scottish Moors.
The desert is another such place – we all know the story of the B24 ‘Lady Be Good’ which was discovered in the desert some 15 (?) years after its disappearance, and when you consider the amount of aircraft which were used in that conflict, well I really cannot believe that there’s nothing out there. Okay, the local bedouin tribes will have had sixty years of picking the bits off any exposed airframes, but I’m convinced there’s still a lot to find out there. Baltimores, Wellingtons, Marylands, Kittyhawks, Beaufighters, Hurricanes, Ju52s, Ju87s, Bf109’s…
(climbs off hobby horse…)
Steve,
As long as they haven’t gone the same road as the recent HP Hermes expedition where a few years earlier the wreck had been smelted on site by making a bonfire out of the fuselage. Things do turn up all the time.
As recent as last weekend I found out that a very substantial tailsection of “the other” bomber was found.
More about that later when the time is right 😎
I agree fully with JDK that while a lot of people are discussing things, others are actually recovering airframes (not intended as an insult but more as a fact).
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Cees
Now where to find a FN150 dorsal turret? Perhaps CWH would like to donate theirs as it is not going to be used on FM213.
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Cees
Cees,
Strictly speaking that was Graham Trant, but Peter Thomas provided it with a safe home.
Mark
Thanks Mark, I had a feeling when I typed that I was missing something. Thanks to both 😮 for saving PN323. And just to think that you walked around her when she was still in one piece.
Ahhh, where is a timemachine when you need one.
Cees
Is there any certainty that it is indeed a Lanc? The guys I am involved with at Texel (just to name an example) call any British aircraft wreck a Lanc and any US aircraft a B-17. Sounds oh so simple.
Any further news?
Cees
He had the foresight to save the cockpit of Halifax PN323 before it too was scrapped.
One of the pioneers.
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Cees
I read that a Handley Page testpilot (don’t know if it was “Hazel”) used to loop new Hampdens to check if the performance was as it should be. There are also some stories about Halifaxes being looped (but not intentionally). I think most aircraft types have stories like that (but how to loop a B-29?).
Cees
Miles M20, how simple can you get.
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Cees