😀 😀 😀
Ok seriously again, 😀 😀 😀
What tailplanes will be fitted to TA122. Were the orginal ones
with the fuselage when delivered, or are they newbuilt?
Nice item by the way in the “other” magazine about W4050’s
engines.
Cees
The Boston anytime
Cees
No one believed Ian Cotteril until he dug up something like 52 WWII Harleys in Devon.. still in the crates & on the back of trucks driven into the trenches.. 😉
True, where there is smoke there is fire, The only way to find out if a story is true is to get out and check. In 99,9 cases this never happens unfortunately. We were once told a story of a Spitfire lying in the Dutch dunes. It wasn’t but we checked it out anyway.
Cees
We could get the Halifax rebuilt by Redbull.
Not sure if the paint job would be authentic though.
Civil enough? :rolleyes:
Ali
As long as it flies, :p
Cees
Looks fantastic Bruce!
Great job. If she had been kept in storage in Holland, there would have been no chance she would look like herself again.
Cheers
Cees
There is still RAF Lissett to dig up. They buried lorry loads of kit shortly after the war. I know of one old genetleman who saw it when he was a child, but I’ve lost contact with him.
Most of those stories start in a similar fashion Phillip
Cees
Thanks lads,
Yes, joined the 40 club today.
That explains the hadbags Ben
Cheers
Cees
Deryck,
Try the RAF Museum. They have a lot of turret cupolas in storage.
Cheers
Cees
Thats because I warned them about you :p and your hadbags :p :p
😀
TT
I might have known you would have Ben. 😮
Coming to Shoreham next month Ben……..? 😎
Let’s meet at sunset, you, me and two hadbags 😉
😀 😀 😀
Cees
Is that article on the web somewhere?
Ali
Not that I know,
But according to Paul McMillan Google is your friend 😉
Cees
Well, when I wanted to buy or swap one of two Halifax throttle boxes in storage for the RAF Museum, they declined.
I was really talking English Pounds not Euro’s, honest! 😉
Cees
Cees,
Question: how “original” do you think MJ271 is? Remember this particular aircraft did not go on display inside the Aviodrome (or Aviodome for that part) directly after it’s last flight in service with the air force. It first went to a small museum in Delfzijl, apparently losing such parts as the rudder, elevator, tailwheel, canopy and prop. As the aircraft was displayed outside and close to the sea corrosion took it’s toll. It would appear that the aircraft got a fair share of fresh metal during it’s subsequent restoration and a load of “new” parts to replace missing parts.
I agree that this machine is a nice example of a Spitfire but in my opinion not in the same class as for instance the P-38 at NASM or the Corsair in Yeovilton.
Again, I’m sorry to see it leave (for the time being at last) but look forward to seeing a Firefly emerge from restoration and seeing the proceeds being used to restore other aircraft in the Aviodrome collection.
Harm-Jan
Harm-Jan,
The fuselage and wings are mostly original. The wingspars are corroded ruling out a flying restoration (at the time, before the warbird industry came into play) according to Harry van der Meer. Apart from that a large amount of parts were sourced within Holland including a seat which someone had stored under his bed or so the story goes, elevators etc. So a lot of original Dutch provenance.
Sticking to subject, I would like to see a restored Firefly as well, but why this one as there are several others (including a twoseater, a version which was flown in Holland as well) available in much more complete condition and easier to restore. If change of policy by the Aviodreamers means that they will concentrate on civil aviation, then where does the Firefly fit in. Nothing wrong with their policy but it is full of holes. Then again it’s their policy and as visitors we have to accept it or stay away. Whichever we choose (entry € 12,50). This is not a onesided story, which makes it very interesting.
Cees
I don’t agree with this decision, but it is a sad reflection on modern society when money means more than trying to preserve heritage artifacts in relatively original condition.
Regards,
Dan
Dan
My point exactly. There is nothing wrong with putting as many as possible Spitfires back into the air but it would be better to use identities with “thin but robust” provenance. Remember flying an aircraft also involves maintenance, replacing parts, repairs etc.
There is always the need for totally authentic airframes on static display. This particular Spitfire has a very interesting paintscheme as well as has seen action in Dutch service than while being flown by the RAF. There should be some sort of balance between the two don’t you think.
If collections want to change their policy why not swap a DC-3 for a Firefly for instance. Or swap this Spit for the one at Overloon which has no Dutch history etc. A delicate subject but it is interesting to read the many views.
TT, you know what a hadbag is don’t you? 😀
Must be my age, or the finger is slipping 😉
Cees
Don’t forget!!!
Keep it civil!!!
We can do it you know 😉
Cees
Herman,
Goed idee
Cees