fighteraceStill waiting for forms to fill in for a dig.;)
Well as its Xmas, my garden could do with a good digging over. No forms to fill in plus you may even find the old spitfire part buried:diablo:
Happy hunting
fighteraceGareth
The Wessex Archaeology site has a great deal of information relating to wrecks recovered from the sea. Unless someone beats me to it I will try to find a link and post later.
I dont say it has a great deal advise however the acciant wooden boat recovered from estury at newport was cut up as it was too bit to move and now stuck in a building on an industrial estate costing the tax payers thousands of pounds to store. it dont mention that does it about its recovery techniques!!
From memory they are pushing a new ballet so any wreck at sea which one wishes to recover will have more paper work that what its worth to recover. i think its comming into force 2010
I will try and find the link to post, my advise anything at sea better be recovered fast untill the put the kibers on it in uk waters
fighteraceThe Wessex Archaeology website might be worth a look.
However, the long term survival of all UK sea-area recovered wrecks thus far is not….erm…very long term!
I THINK THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL APPROACH IS TO LEAVE THEM WHERE THE FALL AS THEY ARE NOT FOND LOVERS OF SEEING WRECKS EITHER DUG OR DISTURDED. OF COURSE I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM!!!
BEST WAY IS TO SUBMERGE THE ARTIFACT IN FRESH WATER TO KILL OFF THE SEA CREATURES FIRST.
fighteraceHi Ian & Gareth
Thought that prop looked familiar – even if it has less blades than ours! :p Shame about the grip – looks like you have a fossil on your hands! A tad cold for a dig though IMO, but you seem to have so many to fit in! 😮 At least you are managing to complete a few projects though, as all of our seemed to fall by the wayside this year 🙁 Been out today & finally got a consent form signed for one of the Mustangs though 😀
Missis just gave the orders to do the washing up so i chucked the control column in the dishwasher and come out like a new penny, mind you do need to pay for a quality brand of detergent !!!. Shame the prop wont fit in.
Learned something new today, thought a defiant spade grip was the same as a hurricane grip AH2040, but it appears to be a dunlop pattent AH2075 stick with electric gun button drilled in center for cable for the switch box
fighteraceWell, you people on here really do need to get out more!! Correct:rolleyes:
307 Squadron Colerne Defiant N3391. Sgt W. Dukszto / Sgt J. Banys took of on operational duties 24-Apr-41 with crew baling out after experiencing vibration from the engine. The pilot’s parachute became tangled in the gun barrels of the turret. He was able to free himself and land safely, the Defiant crashed near Carlton Musgrave
fighteraceIn the interests of accuracy, the wreck was certainly recovered AFTER the 1986 PMR Act. The wreckage that Jon R. acquired came, via me, from the person who recovered it and who was not a member of Severnside Aviation Society nor in any way connected to that organisation.
Well being only a stones from me where it crashed its good to see the wreck finally being restored.
I think what Mercle is try to say is that some parts of the spitfire were once in the hands of SAS members, of which some were unaware of of any transactions to a member of the Malvern spitfire society many years later by one of the SAS group.
Malvern spitfire society inturn made the final visit to the site and recovered what remained buried in the mud flats post 1986.
Any how who cares it looks in good hands, but like a man once told me possession is 9/10 of the law your nicked:diablo:
fighterace:diablo:
Mike
With all due respect, a tailwheel purporting to be from the High Salvington He 111 most certainly DID appear on e-bay not too long ago. It had a label attached, bluish green if I recall correctly, stating that it was to be taken to RAF Ford….again, thats from memory. I do, though, have a print out of the e-bay auction page including photo which I will dig out of my file and post here. The wheel offered at that time was, in my view, quite phoney. There were numerous reasons for coming to that quite definite conclusion. If, however, you are confident that the wheel you now own IS perfectly genuine, and is also clearly a different wheel, then I’m delighted you have such a nice item in your collection.
Maybe this was one of the unique double-tailwheel Heinkel’s.:D
I wasn’t trying to be contentious. Just stating things as I see them.
Wont be the first tail wheel on ebay with a suspect history, back about 2 years ago there was a perfect tail wheel off the me111 off Hermann Görings nephew, considering it hit solid rock with crew missing it had no damage still with air in the tyre:rolleyes:
I wonder as the 15th of september approches who will be the first on ebay to list a bit of ray holmes hurricane, as undouptly that dig will be on tv again:diablo:
fighteraceI had my eye on the fundraising too…..
I have found that WIX (more than this forum) seem to get a good laugh about TIGHAR, so I simply wondered.
I have no idea how the British licence system works (or any other licence system for that matter :p) but he seems to be answering questions on WIX, so maybe someone should ask him.
Well certainly this may be a little interesting topic as its my understanding that the site lies between high and low tide, so who owns it as thats a gray area in itself?, surely if the local council had anything about them they would try to keep the wreck locally as part of their heritage.
just out of interest if there are any forum members wishing to try their luck with a bucket and spade on the beach, more than one licence can be issued at any one given time to the same site.
fighteraceBlimey they don’t come cheap, a donation of $100 or more, some hope !
Come on boys dig deep, bloody cheak really they should be thankfull for any donation at all especially to finance someones full time hobbie, I think i would sooner give my donations to worthy causes like cancer research.
The only good thing i read on the web site was that atleast its to stay with in the UK
fighteracespade grip
We found a odd item on a MK1 spitfire dig a few years ago where we recovered the remains of a spade grip complete with a jubliee clip mounted over the gun button. Seemed a bloody odd thing i must admit to find fitted to the gun button but maybe this could be what it was for
fighteraceThe 109 was a photo recce aircraft, I’ll get the details from my aged aunt. The pastie comments were genuine. Have been twice fed to within an inch of my life twice by West country farmers. On the subject of Cornish crashes, I took my fiance on holiday to Cornwall a few years back. No metal detecting or harassing aged locals about plane crashes was allowed. As we settled down to a full English breakfast in Tintagel one morning Sharon turned to the back of the menu and was horrified to see a picture of a crashed plane. An abandoned Hunter had finished up in the road not six feet from where we were eating. How she smiled. There was a link to a good website about the crash posted here a while back.
Obviously those cream teas cannot keep you away:diablo: that 109e crashed nr scorriton 7th jan 1942 after the pilot bailing at 12,000ft. Dont all jump off you seats to look as the site dug and hoovered up years ago way back in the early 1980’s. Supprised being the only 109 down that end it was documented,located and recovered years before youself
Can think of a FW190 in the shallow water down there which we was told off a while ago by a fisherman which hit land first and fell into the water,maybe thats the one you refer too? who’s into water sports for a quick dip as i dont like getting wet:D
fighteraceI’m still waiting for someone to tell me they have explored the tunnel into the cliff just inland from the Downderry Chain Home station…I lived there in the mid ’70’s & apparently that tunnel goes WAY back into the rock
Well had a quick look in there for the yankee gear which was supposidy left behind, sadly half way down my torch ran out with the glow from a load of eyes at the bottom in the torch beam. Not sure if they was the reflectors from willys jeeps or immigrants.:diablo:
fighteraceI have just found my notes from the recovery:
“Aircraft had burnt severely. Never seen a recovered wreck so badly burnt and all combustible material had gone. Even the armoured windscreen glass was solidified molten lumps and the heavy yellow clay had been baked into terra-cotta red brick! Quite a blaze”
Mark 12 was being very prophetic in his original “sackcloth and ashes” post!
Well bloody hell, seens like with your origional notes it should get the bidders going, sounds a rare piece off this recovery :rolleyes:
fighteraceWell dip your hand in your pocket would be a good start to get one:D, Things just dont fall into position for nothing especially off farmers with scrap steel making £200 a ton and fuel knocking on 6 pounds a gallon to help delivery.
From memory if you get on your push bike there’s a few dotted about within a few miles of the airfield over by andersea. ime sure if you play your cards right with the farmers daughter they may even deliver it;)
fighteraceNow now boys, Please dont through all your toys out of the pram, its may damage the paintwork:diablo:
Merkle, or should you change it to miricle as you have a special hidden tallent on this forum i can see, Well least you are trying from what i can see any how, the old saying goes you always find a good player on the touch line:diablo: paddle down stream and you will find it easy
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