It’ll be hung on fishing line from someone’s bedroom ceiling for a few months, have it’s undercarriage broken off during a horrific landing accident on the landing carpet (plus maybe a tail plane for good measure) then set fire to and chucked out of an upstairs window…..
…or was it just me? :confused:
Mine usually ended up starring in famous ‘B’ movies such as ‘Attack Of The 100ft Cat’ and ‘Return Of The Martian Hampster’ ๐ ๐ .
Regards,
John.
Feel sorry for the poor bloke who has been sat in it for a good few years now, I reckon his urine bag may need emptying soon!!!!!.
Regards,
John.
If the worst comes to the worst what will happen to the Hunter sat outside the Hull factory if it closes down?.
Just a thought.
Regards,
John.
This is amazing news, I hope that she will have a long and active career on the airshow curcuit……perhaps Waddington 2007? now that would be something!!!!
Regards,
John.
He also said ‘keep personal insults out of it’ and you have rissen to Lancmans level, why not just ignore it becouse your response is just encouraging bad behaviour!!!.
Regards,
John.
Damn Scott!! you must have been stood right next to me when the Bucc was being tested I have the exact same photo!!, Shame the port engine didn’t spark into life but for all their hard work you can see it’s paid off.
Can’t wait to see her taxi run, that will be awesome!!.
Regards,
John.
Hi John
I have a hand controller in a large mound of ex saudi Lightning stuff, on the side it has a diagram explaining all the twiddly bits well kind of
anyway your picture top right the knob is labelled acquistion marker range rv2
smoother knob the opposite side says RVI manual Gain control, button in the middle of it is labelled SF Disply Range SelectionThe sliding bit on the top between the two is Scan Pattern Selection SD – SE
The two items on the grip top right are the long switch angled at the top is some sort of rang indicator says 60 mile – 40 mile the switch in fron tof it says SL Vis ident
Hope you can decipher these
Tim
Thanks Tim
Yes it does help a little but there are still a few more to go!!!. check your PM box.
Regards,
John.
Hi All
John XN728 is a F.2A and she’s not the only one left in Britain, There is F.2A XN776 at East Fortune
Scott C
Sorry Scot
I blame it on a type ‘o’ and correct me if I’m wrong but East Fortune is in Scotland and I should have said she was the only one in England!!. :p
Ok I’ll get me coat ๐ฎ ๐ฎ .
Regards,
John.
She was purchased by the owner of a business called A1 Commercials; he wanted her as a gate guard.
The wings were cut inside the undercarriage not outside like normally done for transport, this meant that the undercarriage was not strong enough to hold her up so a cradle was fitted below the ventral pack.
Things looked rosie while business was good but eventually A1 commercials went bust and she was left to rot, I don’t know who actually owns her or the land she is on but as time went by the inevitable happened and souvenier hunters took what they could.
A panel here and there and then the canopy went and the cockpit was gutted, somehow someone managed to take the radar bullet and radar (weighing in at about 250kg’s), this tipped the C of G to the back and she sat on her tail. On the High resolution photo I have you can see all the puncture marks down her side and there is not one square inch of her that isnโt either punctured, graffitied, missing or rotten.
I don’t know what the arrangement is currently regarding her ownership but whoever has her has a BIG decision to make, in my humble opinion she is way past restoration to full airframe, the cost of just a re-paint is hard for museums to budget for so a re-build of this magnitude I think is unfeasible.
What you must remember is she has been sat in the open for nearly twenty years without any form of maintenance or protection, she has been butchered by vultures that have had no regard for how they remove things other than just wrenching them of and causing more damage, There are a large number of Lightning’s preserved in the UK and to try and bring this one up to standard would drain resources from airframes that require it more.
This makes me cry to say it but yes I think that the best option would be to remove the nose section at the transport joint for preservation and restoration, take the engines and missile pack for display, remove all other usable/restorable spares and finally take the tailfin and make it into a memorial of her story and passing.
I know that to say ‘scrap a Lightning’ causes great offence so if someone is prepared to save her and she is close enough to me then I would gladly volunteer my help, I must stress that I NEVER want to see a Lightning scrapped but in this case one has to consider carefully the pro’s and cons of restoration.
Regards,
John.
This was taken by me on Wednesday of this week, it is in a scrap yard and the current ‘custodian’ claims he want’s to restore her as a gate guard.
In my view and I must emphasize I LOVE Lightning’s, I feel she would be better of reduced to a nose section and restored, the engines that are still in her can be used as displays and some would say the tail section could be claimed as ‘modern art’.
To try to restore her as a gate guard would take a monumental amount of money (the wings were cut inside the undercarriage) and there is far to much missing now to make it viable, It is a sad site to see every time I go down the A1 and she is the only F.2 in Britain so hopefully something will be done with her one day.
Regards,
John.
:p :p Just pleased to help!! :p :p
John.
According to the TFC website they don’t have a Spitefull, if anyone knows more please tell cos that would be one rare puppy!.
Regards,
John.
Landraver
For more history and info try this link:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spiteful
Regards,
John.
Landraver
Found by quick google:-
General characteristics
Crew: One
Length: 32 ft 11 in (10.03 m)
Wingspan: 35 ft 0 in (10.67 m)
Height: 13 ft 5 in (4.08 m)
Empty weight: 7,350 lb (3,334 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 9,949 lb (4,513 kg)
Powerplant: 1ร Rolls-Royce Griffon 85 V-12 engine, 2,375 hp (1,772 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 484 mph (777 km/h)
Range: 566 miles (908 km)
Service ceiling: 42,000 ft (12,800 m)
Rate of climb: 4,080 ft/min (20.7 m/s)
Armament
4ร 20 mm Hispano Mk V cannons
Also there was the development of the JET Spiteful !!!!!.
In late 1943 or early 1944 it was suggested by Joe Smith that Supermarine develop a simple jet fighter based around the Spiteful’s wing, and use a new jet engine that was being proposed by Rolls-Royce which would later become the Nene. This proposal was accepted and a new specification, E.10/44, was issued by the Air Ministry for an experimental aircraft which was initially referred to as the Jet Spiteful; the prototype TS409 first flew on 27 July 1946. The E.10/44 was not ordered by the RAF, as its performance was not substantially better than that of the Meteor and Vampire, but the Admiralty expressed an interest in the aircraft for use as a naval fighter and issued a specification, N.5/45, around it. The aircraft was subsequently named Attacker and had a successful (if short) career with the FAA and the PAF.
Hope all this info helps, in answer to a couple of your questions then YES it was cancelled in favour of the new jets, Meteor and Vampire and YES it would out run a Tucano, 484mph versus 315mph = big difference.
Please remember I am no expert of this type, all info found on public domain websites and are prone to technical inacuracies so if someone knows better then please jump in.
Kndest regards,
John.
Looks nice bright and enthusiast friendly, and it’s not even finished yet!!!
Regards,
John.