i would image a lot of it will be offered on ebay?

If it does then someone should be hung by the short and curly’s and shot :diablo: .

What about the Trident at Manchester, They do not operate with the same sort of budget as Cosford and I’m sure they would not say no to a lorry load of spares.

Regards,

John.

Neil

Well done on the move, I am pleased to hear that it all went well and I hope that the planning permision is just as succesfull.

I look forward to seing you at Cockpitfest this year.

Regards,

John.

If anyone is still interested I have a full compliment of cockpit pics of both the Victors at Bruntingthorpe, I have close ups of each panel in turn and several of the back seaters positions too.

In total I have about a dozen on each one and if I work out how to post them I will (very big files).

I also have shots of the simulator at Elvington.

John.

My frist choice would be the low after-burner pass at Farnborough 2004 by a B-1B Lancer…….ears bleeding, eyes watering, internal organs scrambled!.

Second would be the 11 ship scramble at the Last Last Lightning show at RAF Binbrook August 87, nuff said.

For shear pleasure and pride one cannot deny the unique roar of an Avro Vulcan on full chat pulling up at the end of the runway, The screaming roar of four Avon’s allways made me go weak in the underpants!!.

John.

I’m pretty sure I read somewhere, that it is impossible for a prop driven aircraft to go supersonic.
Something about the propeller arc creating drag after a certain speed.

Not so!!, On the 27 June 1953 Capt. John M. ‘Fitz’ Fitzpatrick took the XF-88B through the sound barrier.

The XF-88B was an experimental plane based on the F101 Voodoo and was fitted with two J34 jet engnes with afterburner for conventional flight and in the nose was fitted an Allison XT38 turboprop engine.

Due to the ‘tri motor’ configuration fuel load dictated sortie times of around twenty minutes and the propellor was only used to sustain flight once the jets had got the plane up to high subsonc speed.

That said as far as I know it is the only propellor driven aircraft that has documented evidence of breaking the sound barrier, eventually reality kicked in and everyone saw the pointlessness of the excersize and the project was abandoned and the airframe scrapped.

John.

Good point, but one thing gets me thinking that the Super Hornets fit up of 12 AAM’s is an excersize in publicity, I remember watching the Super Hornet’s display at Farnborough Airshow a couple of years back with a full tactical war load (a party trick of the F18 with penalties on fuel load I’m sure).

I am under the belief that the Hornet was designed as a point defence fighter for the US Navy and therefore can carry a large amount of load without the worry of range, true it is a multi role aircraft and can be used an air-ground weapon.

Also my understanding is the F16 and F15 are used primarily as strike aircraft which carry a minimal AAM’s for self defence and LGB’s for primary targets whilst retaining range for the mission.

I am only posting this reply from what I have seen at airshows and watched on the box, I am not a book muncher and know nothing of warloads, takeoff weights and fuel loads of said aircraft, as ajunior spotter this thread has interested me and education is the name of the game!!!.

Regards

John

Like everything in the ebay world it’s worth what someone wants to bid for it! There might be a good market though for someone to make repro’s !

Valid point, it is worth only what someone is prepared to pay for it so why has he started at such a high price?, there are such options on E-bay as reserve prices and best offers or even ‘buy it now’ Motivated by greed?.

I agree with EN380, E-bay is a good tool for collectors to find those gems that we have all been looking for, after all if all the aviation enthusiasts in the UK gave up there collections to museums then me thinks there would not be enough shelf space for even 1/4 of it all, and as genuine collectors we would cherish and look after things rather than see them hawked off for a profit or destroyed needlessly (remembering the log book previously with 11 Guy Gibson signitures and the accompanying threat to cut it up and sell individually).

Knowing that the sign has no WW2 provenance certainly make the starting price VERY uninviting.

John.