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  • in reply to: Mirage Pulled Out Of Indian MMRCA Race #2587331
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    France offers Rafale instead of Mirage

    NEW DELHI, FEB 16: French President Jacques Chirac is expected to formally convey to the Indian government its decision to offer the Rafale multirole fighter, instead of its Dassault’s Mirage-2000-5 fighter earlier put forth, in the bid for $9 bn 126 combat aircraft floated by the Indian Air Force (IAF).
    IAF was completely taken by surprise, as it was looking at the Mirage aircraft, the French government has conveyed its intention to shortly pull the Mirage-family of fighters off all production lines at contractor Dassault’s facilities to make way for the full-rate production of the new-generation Rafale.

    The Rafale, it feels, would be a more a suitable contender: it is much more capable, though considerably costlier.When air chief SP Tyagi visited Paris last June, he was given the opportunity to take a spin in a Rafale C-variant twin-seater at the Paris Air Show in Le Bourget.

    In fact, even the Naval Chief Admiral Arun Prakash flew in a Rafale-M carrier variant, when he was Western Naval commander, early in 2004.

    France’s offer, like the other countries contending for the massive deal, would include the licensed manufacture of Rafales at HAL’s facilities.

    The defence delegation accompanying the french president, led by defence minister Michele Alliot-Marie, is expected to inform the South Block that upgrading infrastructure for the Rafale will not be an expensive proposition since it takes much from the Mirage family itself.

    http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=117822

    BTW : the AESA radar development of the Rafale has been quickened ( http://yahoo.reuters.com/stocks/QuoteCompanyNewsArticle.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20060116:MTFH98510_2006-01-16_15-57-30_L16777674&symbol=AVMD.PA )

    in reply to: Israel – India and Beyond #2587333
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    To add, in this tender too, there is Israeli-US bickering :

    The Indian Air Force plans to publish a $100 million tender in Sept/05 for a command and control system. Defense News reports that the system is an [u]ambitious attempt to imitate NATO’s command and control network[/u], and that the tender is for more than $100 million. The company chosen will also have to help integrate the Indian Air Force’s current air defense, control, surveillance, warplane mission management system, and airspace management systems with the new backbone.

    This tender comes at an important time, and will test both India’s and Israel’s recent defense agreements with the USA.

    Elbit Systems and Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) have been invited to bid on the huge international tender. This is hardly surprising given their substantial relationships and experience with India’s military and especially its air force. Meanwhile, US C4SI capabilities companies are among the offerings being promoted in a recent “informational briefing” tour by Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kohler, head of the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) which oversees U.S. weapons export controls.

    The tender is likely to serve as a test case for the recent memorandum signed by Israel and the US on sales of weapons and military systems to sensitive countries. In effect, the document gives the US a veto on Israel’s exports of weapons and technology to countries that the US believes constitute a threat to its security, or the security of a given region. Senior Israeli defense industry figures warned that rather than being aimed only at China, the memorandum would actually be used in protectionist ways to hinder and strangle Israeli defense exports to other markets in Asia, including India.

    The USA’s behaviour around this contract will either prove these critics correct and create substantial policy rethinks in Israel, or allow an even competition and lay those concerns to rest.

    At the same time, India has its own concerns about receiving “second best” offers from the USA, and is looking for evidence that Washington intends to treat the nation as a full defense partner in the wake of their recent 10-year defense pact. India’s new foreign procurement rules are likely to make this hurdle even more challenging.

    These concerns are not mutually exclusive by any means; and indeed, the easiest way to sidestep them both is for the USA to put as few roadblocks in the way as possible for the companies involved, remain scripulously even-handed, and let the competition run its course.

    The Tender Process

    Bids and technical specifications for this ambitious C4I contract must be submitted within three months of the publication of the tender. The Indian Air Force will examine the bids for 4-6 months, and draw up a short list of candidates, from which the winner will be selected. Signing of the contract with the winner is scheduled within a year of the short list’s publication.

    This gives the contract signing date a target of April-June 2007, though participating companies are advised by DID to have patience with India’s defense procurement processes and be prepared for longer time frames. The winning company will have to build a prototype of the system two years after the contract is signed.

    in reply to: Israel – India and Beyond #2587353
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    ^^ Yes. Huawei, a private chinese telecom company wants to provide c4i systems to the IAF – would you believe it. Its ringing alarm bells at the PMO as well.

    [u]The IAF’s global tender also comes at a time when a bid made by a Chinese software and telecommunication firm for a highly classified defence communication network in India had set alarm bells ringing😀 in South Block. This had also set off a debate in military circles about the consequences of outsourcing sensitive military projects.[/u]

    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050831/cth1.htm#25

    Just hope that the Thundaaar or “photochor Lavi” wont enter the MRCA as well 😉

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2587354
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    I’ve seen the LCA in the air twice (far from the Yalahanka airbase) – one as recently as quarter back .. and both times the LCA flew unescorted by any plane (once it was 2 LCA’s flying together)

    in reply to: Faked apollo Mission to Moon? #2587369
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    Russia to have base on moon by 2020 😮

    Russia is planning to mine a rare fuel on the moon by 2020 with a permanent base and a heavy-cargo transport link, a Russian space official said Wednesday.

    “We are planning to build a permanent base on the moon by 2015 and by 2020 we can begin the industrial-scale delivery… of the rare isotope Helium-3,” Nikolai Sevastyanov, head of the Energia space corporation, was quoted by Itar-Tass news agency as saying at an academic conference.

    The International Space Station (ISS) would play a key role in the project and a regular transport relay to the moon would be established with the help of the planned Clipper spaceship and the Parom, a space capsule intended to tug heavy cargo containers around space, Sevastyanov said.

    Helium-3 is a non-radioactive isotope of helium that can be used in nuclear fusion.

    Rare on earth but plentiful on the moon, it is seen by some experts as an ideal fuel because it is powerful, non-polluting and generates almost no radioactive by-product.

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    in reply to: Using roads as runways? #2587383
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    Great thread guys. India should also concentrate on these. Hopefully such a move will improve road infrastructure as well 😉

    in reply to: Israel – India and Beyond #2587400
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    Question : Which American technology (specifically) does the Phalcon AWACS have ? Why did it need US clearence for sale to India :confused:

    Also, i see India as a potential customer for the Arrow-2(latest) system as well. Hopefully American clearence will go on smoothly (considering the recent Indo-US ties).

    I also hope its Israel (IAI or Elbit) that manages to win the IAF 100 million $ c4I systems tender (also particating : Raytheon, N-G, EADS & Huawei-China:eek: (strange but true) )

    in reply to: AESA fighter radars #2587414
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    Hmmm… this is interesting >>

    AESA set developed for the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor. The AESA set consists of an array of Transmitter-Receiver (T/R) modules linked by high-speed processors. Different T/R modules in the array can be allocated to different tasks providing wide range of functions, thus acting as a multimode radar, active jamming system, passive electronic defense system, and communications system. The system generates signals over a wide range of frequencies and pulse patterns in an unpredictable fashion to ensure Low Probability of Intercept (LPI), successfully “fooling“ enemy Radar Warning Receivers (RWR).

    The AN/APG-81 uses advanced technology compared to the F-22’s AN/APG-77, but airframe constraints mean that it has fewer T/R modules, thus limiting its range to 165 km.
    http://www.ukintpress.com/emailers/aerotestnews/issue03-1005/images/pics/JSF-Power-on.jpg
    The radar system will also incorporate the agile beam steering capabilities developed for the APG-77. Since US media reports indicate Bush administration’s clearance for possible transfer of sensitive radar technology like Raytheon AN/APG-79 AESA radar of the Super Hornet to India, diplomatic bargaining to secure the AN/APG-81 AESA radar may well bear fruit. Higher echelons of present US administration have repeatedly expressed their desire to witness the emergence of India into a robust continental military power.

    A Lockheed Martin Electro-Optical Targeting System (EOTS) embedded under the F-35’s nose will provide long-range detection and precision targeting, along with the Northrop Grumman DAS (Distributed Aperture System) thermal imaging system. EOTS will be based on the Sniper XL pod developed for the F-16, which incorporates a “third generation” Mid-Wave Forward Looking Infra Red (MWFLIR) with possibly staring focal plane technology, dual mode laser, CCD TV, laser spot tracker and laser marker. Interestingly, EOTS is not turret-mounted, but has a wide aperture that is blended into the aircraft’s nose contours, covered by a window that is opaque to radar. On their part, DAS sensors fitted at multiple locations on the aircraft consist of multiple infrared cameras providing full-sphere 360-degrees coverage using advanced signal conditioning algorithms. The DAS provides navigation, missile warning and Infra Red Search & Track (IRST) as well as situational awareness.

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    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2590159
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    New Delhi issues requests for ASW helicopters and maritime reconnaissance aircraft, as fighter suppliers line up

    [u]India has opened competitions for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters and long-range maritime reconnaissance aircraft and is expected by April to issue a highly anticipated tender for next-generation :confused: fighters.[/u]

    Industry sources say the Indian navy is seeking proposals by mid-March for eight maritime reconnaissance aircraft, but that the service has rejected a US government proposal to lease two Lockheed Martin P-3 Orions as an interim solution. The navy has also set a March deadline to receive bids for 16 ASW helicopters, plus eight options, but the manufacturers that were handed the tender – AgustaWestland, Eurocopter, Kamov and Sikorsky – are asking for an extension.

    The maritime reconnaissance tender is believed to have been forwarded to BAE Systems, Boeing, EADS, Ilyushin and Lockheed. The latter had hoped to gain an inside track through a December 2005 US Navy offer to lease two P-3s, but this was rejected by New Delhi last month. However, Lockheed still appears well positioned, as Boeing will not be ready to export its 737-based P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft until about 2012 🙁 and other US companies interested in offering refurbished P-3s – including L-3 Communications – will probably be blocked from competing.

    Tupolev Tu-142 and Westland Sea King replacements are just two of a long list of new aircraft requirements drafted by New Delhi, and manufacturers have complained that it has yet to release a priority list. [u]A contract for almost 200 multi-role army helicopters is expected to be concluded first, but the selection of the Bell 407http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif or Eurocopter AS550http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif[/u] has already been delayed from late 2005 until at least mid-2006.

    Fighter manufacturers also have been waiting several months to receive a tender for 126 new aircraft. New Delhi has not moved on the estimated $6-8 billion programme since asking in late 2004 for information on the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Mirage 2000-5, Lockheed F-16, RSK MiG MiG-29 and Saab Gripen. Manufacturers expect Dassault’s Rafalehttp://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/images/icons/icon14.gif and the Eurofighter Typhoonhttp://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/images/icons/icon13.gif will also be considered for the tender, now expected to be released in March or April.

    However, industry sources say the inclusion of the additional aircraft types, plus uncertainty over how to measure an expected requirement for 30% direct offsets 🙂 and [u][i]90% technology transfer[/u][/i] 😎 😎 , could extend the evaluation period until 2007 or even 2008.

    India, meanwhile, has also announced its intention to pursue an almost $890 million upgrade to its existing air force fleet of MiG-29s with Russia’s RSK MiG.

    http://www.flightinternational.com/Articles/2006/02/14/Navigation/177/204653/India+details+wide-ranging+wishlist.html

    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2590161
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    The latest Eyrie’s have active antenna’s.

    The mission radar, the Flygburen Spaning Radar with the Swedish Air Force designation FSR 890, is based on the Erieye side looking airborne radar (SLAR) from Ericsson Microwave Systems. The Erieye SLAR is a long-range radar, fitted with fixed [i]active phased array antennae[/i] and operating within the 2GHz to 4GHz, NATO E to F bands, (the US S band). The 9m-long, 900kg antenna unit is mounted on the upper spine of the fuselage and gives the aircraft its distinctive appearance.

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    http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/s100b_argus/images/S100BArgus_5.jpg

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2590605
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    [u]Flight Tests of Upgraded MiG-29 with New “Zhuk-MFEh” Aircraft Radar Starting[/u]

    The modified “Zhuk-MFEh” aircraft radar (BRLS) with a phased antenna array developed by the Fazotron-NIIR corporation will be installed on a MiG-29 fighter before year’s end, they reported to Interfax-AVN in the Russian aviation industry.

    “Flight tests of the BRLS on a MiG-29 will be determined in many ways by the weather conditions. It is not ruled out that the airplane will make one – two flights as early as the end of December,” the agency source thinks. According to him, “the main volume of tests, in accordance with the program, will begin in January 2006 ((sic)).”

    “Fulfillment of the timetable of flight tests will depend on the rhythm of the financing – the cost of one experimental sortie is several million rubles,” the source noted. He reported that “financing of the “Zhuk-MFEh” BRLS tests is being undertaken mainly by the BRLS developer – the Fazotron-NIIR corporation, but RSK MiG also is participating in financing of the program of tests.”

    Source: 27.01.06, Interfax-AVN

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2590618
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    Samara’s Motorstroitel’ to Deliver Engines for Indian Air Force’s Tu-142

    The Samara Motorstroitel’ plant will deliver the engines for the Indian air force’s Tu-142 anti-submarine airplanes, the newspaper Vedomosti has reported with a reference to the enterprises representative.

    According to the publication’s information, a contract for six NK-12MPT engines was signed in December 2005. Assembly of the engines in accordance with the Indian order will start at Motorstroitel’ in March of this year.

    In the opinion of experts, conclusion of the contract with Mashinostroitels’ may signify the start of the upgrade program for the Indian Tu-142.

    In 1986, eight Tu-142MK anti-submarine airplanes with the Tu-142MEh designation were delivered to India which were built at the Taganrog aviation plant. These airplanes were equipped with the “Korshun-K” search and targeting anti-submarine system, which included the MMS-106 towed magnetometer and the “Nerchinsk” hydrologic reconnaissance apparatus. All these airplanes require major overhaul, during which they are supposed to equip them with new aircraft equipment and the upgraded NK-12MP turboprop engines with the AV-60T props and to install new weapons systems. According to the original upgrade plan, it had been planned to carry out the upgrade of all 8 airplanes over 6 years and to complete it in 2010. At the same time, the service life of each airplane will be extended for 16 more years and all together be 32 years.

    The Taganrog Aviation (TAVIA) enterprise is the lead on this program. A corresponding contract, which it earlier had been planned to sign in the same package with the agreement for the transfer to India and the upgrade of the heavy aircraft carrying cruiser
    “Admiral Gorshkov,” is in the final concurrence stage. According to some information, the contract already has been signed and in 2005, it had been planned to complete upgrade of the first airplane. According to other information, Russia has held up this program because of Israel’s interference, who has offered India’s air force the upgrade of the Tu-142 maritime patrol airplanes in accordance with a trilateral agreement with Russia.

    Source: 13.02.06, ARMS-TASS

    Russia arms India with “Sea Dragon”

    Russia has transferred to India an upgraded Il-38SD anti-submarine airplane, Defense News reports. This is the first of three airplanes which have undergone upgrade at Russian enterprises.

    During the upgrade, they equipped the airplane with the newest avionics complex and armament. In particular, the “Sea Dragon” search and targeting complex, which was developed at the St. Peterburg Leninets enterprise, has been installed on the airplane.

    [u]The “Sea Dragon” is able to keep track simultaneously of more than 30 targets which are located at a distance up to 320 kilometers. It is able to detect ships, submarines and even mines and aerial targets. The complex can be linked to the GLONASS satellite navigation system. [/u]

    The cost of the upgrade of one airplane was 35 million dollars. The contract for the upgrade of the three airplanes was signed in 2002. The BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles will also be installed on the Indian Il-38SD‘s in the future.

    Source: 19.01.06, Lenta.RU

    Related news >> LOL … [u]Chinese destroyer ‘spooked’ [/u]

    NEW DELHI: In a remarkable act of long-range maritime snooping, the Navy’s reconnaissance aircraft and spy drones detected, tracked and photographed a spanking new Chinese destroyer and a tanker traversing through the Indian Ocean region this weekend. Sources said the newly-commissioned Sovremenny class destroyer, built for the People’s Liberation Army (Navy) at Russia’s St Petersburg-based North Shipyard, was “picked up” as soon as it entered the Arabian Sea from the Red Sea.

    A Tupolev-142M long-range maritime patrol aircraft, flying from the Goa naval airbase, spotted the Chinese destroyer and the accompanying tanker off Yemen’s Socotra Island, located east of the Gulf of Aden, almost 2,300 km away from the Indian mainland. “The TU-142M, with its long-range cameras, photographed the destroyer carrying out underway replenishment or refuelling from the tanker,” said sources.

    Once the Chinese warships were pinpointed, the Navy kept them under constant surveillance throughout their passage in the Indian Ocean on way to South China Sea. Apart from TU-142Ms, Ilyushin-38s and Israeli Searcher and Heron UAVs (unmanned aerial vehicles) were deployed to keep track of the two ships. This, incidentally, is the second time in recent months that the Navy has caught the Chinese on the high seas. In December, a TU-142M had photographed two new Chinese submarines near the Cape of Good Hope. The destroyer, tracked by the Navy, was handed over to China on December 28.

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    in reply to: China's News, Pics and Speculation Part 9 #2590621
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    Pakistani JF-17’s are getting avionics from the UK 😮

    LONDON, Feb 7: Senior defence officials of Pakistan and the United Kingdom will be meeting here this week to explore avenues for closer cooperation in the defence field, Dawn has learnt.

    When contacted, Pakistan’s High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, Dr Maleeha Lodhi, said the high commission would also be participating in the meeting.

    In response to a question about Pakistan’s defence purchases from the UK, she said at the moment there were no ‘big ticket’ items involved, other than [u]an avionics package for JF-17.[/u]

    http://www.dawn.com/2006/02/08/top6.htm

    I cant help thinking/speculating if the Pakistani FC-1 (a.k.a JF-Thundar) will get the UK’s Selex Vixen 500E AESA radar, which is being marketed for light fighters around the world for light fighters (alredy offered for the LCA and the T-50’s fighter/attack variant) may find its way into -17’s :confused:

    in reply to: AESA fighter radars #2591220
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    lets be frank nothing is indispensable 😀

    Not unless one wants to believe Eurofighter PR about the Captor 😀 😀 and the “technological superiority” of Mechanical Scanning 😀 😀

    Jokes apart, anyone knows anything about the AMSAR’s deployment. Is its development suspended or is it still on. :confused:

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussions #2591860
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    But Personally I would still prefer a Mirage-2000-5MK2 , over a Mig-35 with BARS or what ever.

    Why are you perfering an aircraft that does not have the balls to face the contest, and threw in the towel just a couple of weeks back :rolleyes:

    FLASH : The Mirage-2000 just withdrew. Its not taking part anymore.

    Prefering it accounts to as much as ‘syed saad’ prefering Rafales for the PAF. 😀

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