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That is simply not true if you dive deep enough in world of early stealth.
PS: Quiet Bird was from 1962 and was not edged either, rather smooth. There are numerous other examples.
Exactly smooth stealth was always know and preferred, but given the computing power available at the time the RCS calculation were just a little challenging.
Lead ingestion?
Today the design of the APG-77 might be old, but the software is not. Hardware is only of limited importance today, especially the radar modules.
Any more details on this?
I guess this feat would be possible only if all the contacts are clearly, instantly ID’ed at BVR ranges.
Would it be the case in a real shooting war?
Well against an OpFOR simulating MiG-21 level aircraft, I have no doubt that it happened. :dev2:
When they have their own modern engines the sales will come.
The fact is when you train, you come up with a scenario that is challenging to both parties. The F-22 could have been flying lazy eights and shoot down Typhoon as they wish in BVR, only being limited by the number of AIM-120s carried, but that would be no learning effect for either of the pilots. That is why Rafale usually simulated semi-active BVR missiles when training with the Typhoons because otherwise it would be equally boring.
We now learned that F-22 is at least equal to Typhoon in the the arena where it is disadvantaged the most. Well I am not impressed.
Lost control, means pilot error, like flying into the sea.
Eurofighter Typhoon sales set for revamp
As I’ve been saying for a while, the EFT has been badly managed from the start leading to cost overrun and a platform with very limited capabilities for a aircraft supposed to be 4.5+ Gen.
I’m glad for them that losing the MMRCA woke them up, and I hope they’ll not just stop at price reduction.
the capabilities match the wishes and investment of the partner nations.
Special circumstances is the right word. The interesting question is, what could be going on in the area that is interesting enough to sent an RF-4E and important enough to shoot at this RF-4.
I do not understand the debate, in the WVR arena the current Raptor version is a little weak, especially vs. a 4th generation enemy who uses IRIS-T and a HMD.
But by that standard, the Rafale is not “omnirole” either. The RBE2 does not provide full interlacing between air/air and air/ground modes, otherwise the UAE would not have needed to ask for that to be added on.
I believe the RBE2 does provide interlacing between air-to-air and terrain following mode, but not simultaneous air to air and air to ground targeting.
If this concern has already been addressed, I’m sure someone can provide a reference.
The EF radar is also able to switch between the modes so quickly that, it feels like real-time, but is not.
Lampyridae was very real indeed. A secret show-off model would be rather pointless. Germany had every intention to built it, but then the cold war ended, the budget was reduced and the project died. I a time when stealth was still secret and the computing power for the RCS calculation laughable, nobody would have down a “show-off” project, especially not before F-117 was released to the public.
Well, if you look at it the first multi-role type was probably the F-4. The first swing-role type probably the F/A-18A, the first omnirole type the Super Hornet.
Of course it is!
I’ve yet to find anyone who can cogently, intelligently explain how ‘Omni role’ is any different to ‘Swing role/multi-role’.
But it’s a very good marketing gag.
Swing role is switching from on role to the other. Omni-role means switching from one role to many others in the same mission. In the future EF might be able to do anti-air and air-to-ground, Rafale is able to to AA, AG, SEAD, RECON, ELNIT and Jamming in one mission.
bolded the important part to show why Rafale is superior.
One geration ahead for Rafale seems right. EF is 4th Rafale is rather 5-.