I do not discount it, I just wanted to make sure it is tailored to the Swiss needs. Just consider their small airspace. Do a QRA their and the ability to super cruise will have a lesser effect on the time to intercept than in larger countries. Just as an example.

I fully agree with the overall result, I just would be careful to go down to the single evaluation point and take them for gospel. No sane person would doubt the superiority of Rafale after the Swiss evaluation and the Indian victory anyway.

Do you know how much it costs to integrate weapons? It takes easily 3-4 years and will cost tens of millions – 50 million or more is a good estimate.

Also, we are not discussing making any major modifications to the jets that are unfunded or unplanned, otherwise the parameters for discussions could change by a bit…

IRIS-T for example is free on Typhoon. And considering this, I bet AIM-9X would also be a very easy integration.

Lol “hugely” superior. Let me guess Solenzara is the one and ultimate universal truth. Typhoon never stands a chance at all against the piece of magic pixie dust called Rafale which is leagues ahead, a generation above and superior across the board in comparison to this utter flawed piece of crap called Eurofighter isn’t it. :rolleyes:

Some times the truth does sunk in. In it like if you order a menu at the restaurant. Would you rather have the best French chef prepare it or a team of Italian, German, Spanish and British cooks?

Lol and the somewhat lower RCS is going to help the Rafale in fighting a truely stealthy opponent in which way? And how much better are the ECM and ECCM capabilities in reality? I’d take a somewhat lesser low speed manoeuvrability with an HMD instead and a dedicated IRST/FLIR senor rather than a missile IR seeker. :p

And still the system integration gives Rafale the edge compared to the other plane.

The Typhoon’s real “edge” lays with fifth generation jets like the J-20 or F-35. At that time, you would like the extra radiated power from the CAESAR, its much superior azimuth (200 degrees v. 140 degrees for the RBE2AA), its substantially greater range at angles, and also its additional modes like radar-based jamming.

I would say fighting 5th generation jets, the lower RCS, better low speed handling, better nose pointing capability, better ECM and ECCM and the AESA that is in production and not some wet dream, is a huge advantage for Rafale.

EF2000 is paper plane, always has been always will be. Eurofighter is all about promises, Rafale is about delivering.

the helmet is a side-show, as the whole cockpit and man to machine interface on Rafale has been found way superior by all countries that tested Rafale and that other plane.

Early prototype – later prototype – see the difference?