I think this is the main problem most people have, Rogerout.
If the US had just offered the contract to Boeing from the start purely to protect US jobs, that would be fine. They might not be getting the best for their money, but its a completely understandable move.
If you have a competition, then you have to be prepared to let any entrant win it; its no use saying ‘well, we didn’t want YOU to win, so we’re giving it to the other guy anyway’, which is really what US politicians and Unions are saying. It makes a mockery of the entire procurement process, and if the protests go through would ultimately be worse for the US, it would put off foreign manufacturers from entering anything for decades to come.
If you are advocating firebombing large areas in the hope of hitting something useful, a certain superpower has already tried this strategy in south east Asia and came back with nothing in the way of results.
Unless they have actual targets to pinpoint you might as well not bother.
On a side note, if anyone has read the latest issue of AFM there is a very interesting article on Slovenian AF PC-9s, bear with me.
On training flights with USAF F-16s, they have actually performed very well as mock dogfights, even managing to splash a few vipers, partly because (crucial bit here!) the F-16s found it very difficult to get an IR lock on the small heat signature of the swifts.
Admittedly they got the swifts every time in BVR, but you can’t have it all! 😀
So until the Sri-Lankan AF gets some BVR kits or other radar guided weapons, it looks like the LTTE will keep flying. What odds do we give them on taking down a Kfir? :diablo:
If they do want half of their order second hand, can that be matched by any of these offers? If it is a vital condition to the agreement, we can probably rule out the F-16, F-18 and Rafale straight away.
Are they comparing flyaway costs to lifetime costs or just pulling numbers out of the air?
Has Tu-160 production of new parts begun again or are they still using up spares left from the 1990s?
Do we have any official announcements about re-starting new builds?
The aircraft itself might be viable, but the costs of setting up a production line and tooling up would be high, eliminating the ‘affordable’ from it.
If these things get delivered they might as well paint a bullseye on all of them for the LTTE.
The propaganda value of decimating the Sri lankan AF’s new toys would be immense, and from their recent operations it seems it is well withing the capabilities of the LTTE
Wishful thinking: (:diablo: )
150 F-35B for the RAF
100 F-35C for the RN
What we will get:
150 (if we are very lucky) F-35B for the both of them. 🙁
I think that licence built would be fine for the US, just depends on whether they can resist the lockheed lobby.
SH is a decent enough Airplane, but when nations have the choice of Gripen, Typhoon, Rafale, F-15 late models, and F-35, it has alot of competition.
I did muse about the possibility of the USAF considering some, to fill the huge gap that may happen if the F-15 had to be withdrawn early and the F-35 IOC dropped back a few years. Either that or they could buy some new build F-15s?
Thats what I was thinking. There is too big a gap between F-35 introduction and F-16 retirement.
The only things I can think of is the MAKO (Which has decided against anyway) and the T-50/A-50, which has no reason to be changed.
http://warfare.ru/?linkid=2553&catid=271
Basic specs here
What do we think Mexico would buy?
Block 50/52 F-16s of second hand models?
As for Hornets, from what i hve read there are no current operators that are willing to give up any, so that might mean an order for Super Hornets?
By builidng both this and the Columbus module for the ISS, ESA probable has the know-how to create a manned module based on the Jules Verne?
I suppose it would need a re-design for re-entry systems, but the principles are in place at least