Just suggestions
Looks like some sort of spare bulb case – if so not Spitfire as this only had a spare gunsight bulb bracket with three holes / fittings for the bulbs to engage into and no cover. If I recall correctly the Mustang (or at lease the later ones) did have a small spare gunsight bulb locker to the right side of the cockpit?, though all aluminium and not as sturdy as this one – is it steel? + the Mustang one (and probably most others in cockpits?) had an engraved lid / cover clearly stating what was inside. Perhaps it is from a vehicle (AFV?) or ground equipment (signalling lamp set?) – As titled – Just suggestions….
I recall being somewhat surprised when cleaning a component recovered from a Defiant MkI crash site, lost April 1941 and finding it clearly stamped “Made in Germany”! Especially as it was lost on a patrol looking for reported raiders and one of the Squadron’s aircraft shot down a Ju88 that night.
Maybe now they’ll dig up the P38?
Moggy
Moggy – Believe me – it doesn’t need digging up! ๐
I don’t know if any one will read this but this is simply to say a big thank you to Bob Collis and David Wade for making the story below possible.
Good to hear that you were able to find someone able to help and that you managed to fulfil your wish to visit the site – many on here will always try to assist relatives whenever we can – well done Bob and Dave.
Suspect item described as “Victorian preesure vessel” now – link to article below with photos – From these the EOD identification looks unlikely – Anything Victorian more than likely to be rivited and this looks welded construction – perhaps they trying to imply age as its rusty! – Looks uncannily like an old LPG gas cylinder to me – not the first time one of these has caused panic recently!
South Wales Argus – Device found at Maesglas store in Newport is ‘not a bomb’
Still – surprised they missed the opportunity to blow a bit of Wales up! ๐
Definitely not Dexion – which have highly distinctive wide slot cross heads as Bruce points out – Also are these not brass? They certainly look it in the photos & would make sense, as steel bolts and aluminium together in a steamy kitchen, could have caused problems! I recall when I worked for an Auction House many years ago being called out to look at one of these kitchens – it was the first I had seen and I was amazed how modern it looked and how many units it comprised at a time when most houses wound have had nothing more than a stove and a plywood “Kitchenette” unit! Sadly there was little market for them at that time and taking it out would have cost more than we estimated it would make – I ended up persuading the householder to keep it and I know that several years later, it had been re-finished and was still in-situ – Suspect they were glad of my advice in the long run! Didn’t know of the aviation connection until recently though.
Jed, did the Hotspurs go to Canada? The evidence I have is of a UK based RCAF Spitfire squadron towing the Hotspurs with the idea that the gliders would transport ground support personnel and stores to the Advanced Landing Grounds in Normandy imediately after D-day.
Would that be the “Hasty Hitch” conversion – I think I read that only two MkVs were converted for trials – I was interested at one time, because one of them crashed near to my previous residence in Lancashire, though not whilst towing – see: Spitfire JK940 – Blackburn -23rd December 1944
Not quite correct Xtangomike.
August 12th 1944. Target, V1 site at Mimoyecques. PB4Y-1 (ex USAAF B-24 J 42- 110007). The single US Navy BQ-8 took off from Fersfield, heading towards Southwold. At an altitude of 2000ft it prematurely detonated over Blyth estuary Suffolk, killing LT Joseph P Kennedy Jr and L T Wilford J Willy. Kennedyโs body was never found.
I recall visiting the Mimoyecques several years ago and there being a memorial to Lt Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr there and a quite good information board on Operation Aphrodite – The Mimoyecques site was not a V-1 site, but a huge purpose built undergroud facility to house a battery of experimental multi-chamber high velocity guns, nicknamed the “London Cannon” or later simply “V-3”.
One of the better Wikipedia pages on the site here: Fortress of Mimoyecques
IIRC the complex had apparently proved impervious to conventional bombing and even an earlier attempt using Tallboys had left it appearing pretty much unscathed. So the plan was to fly the explosive laden B-24 directly into the main entrance, which would have required a high degree of accuracy? Perhaps explaining why the equipment on board the B-24 was apparently so sensitive? Ironically, unknown to the allies the Tallboys had in fact done their work and much of the site had been rendered useless for its original purpose anyway.
Thanks for sharing that Lockwood16 – very interesting – there are plenty of parts there I would love for mine (G-ARDG, C/N 47). But I suspect shipping would be prohibitive!!!
Finally found a photo of an Auster Fuel C*ck online – reproduced here with apologies to the Wings over New Zealand Forum – looks quite different?
Certainly the lettering is totally different, but the valve body underneath looks different too and the spindle looks a lot longer.
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Here is the Spitfire De-Icer C*ck, which certainly looks closer to me? though only two position, despite three pipe unions?
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I guess there must be hundreds of variations depending on application, so looks like this one will remain a mystery?
Thanks for the replies – Surprised how difficult it is to find any detailed info online – been browsing Auster cockpit shots for an hour or so, but not a Vickers C*ck in sight ๐
Another source suggested Spitfire De-icer C*ck and quite a few Spitfire cockpit shots do indeed seem to have something very similar to the right of the seat base and a certain Spitfire spares website has pictures of a very similar one with a rather fancy price tag ๐ฎ
Finally an American site seems to suggest it could even fit a car! Well not any old car – a Ford GT40 no less!!!
I have to say I find the whole thing very puzzling – not only the destruction of a largely intact relic, but why they went to so much trouble? I see nothing wrong with producing the sculptures per se – though they are not my cup-of-tea, I admit and I do have my own feelings on selling aircraft wreck relics for commercial gain, which are well known, so I am not going down that route.
I know there are others who have produced this sort of thing in the past, but the instance that comes to mind, I seem to recall the proceeds went to a worthy cause and the aluminium used was from smashed fragments collected from sites and digs, where they had been checked and assessed as not of sufficient merit to be retained or displayed, so would have probably gone for metal recycling in any case, as many groups do with such material.
However, in this case the firm concerned seem to have deliberately selected a relatively intact example of a Merlin with a known provenance, perhaps feeling that the detailed documented complete destruction of this historic artifact in some way adds to the “value” of what they have produced from it?
I have been involved with enough digs to know how rarely Merlins come out of the ground this intact and have seen plenty that have not – surely there were poor / badly smashed examples available with equal BoB provenance?
Or perhaps showing sacks of aluminium cornflakes and smashed lumps of engine casing going into the furnace would not have satisfied their customer’s desire or imagination?
Derwent on a truck chassis? This looks bananas and has a lot of Meteor stuff with it too! How much fun would this be at Cockpitfest?
Certainly has the looks, but surely its just a mock up? Would those tyres and brakes handle that sort of power? The description seems a bit contradictory – obviously it drives on the roads on its original engine and transmission and there is mention of a runway test, but then it says the engine has not run in over a year and cannot be started! – probably just as well :angel:
Couple of interesting Grips / Stick tops:
RAF Hawker Hunter Control Column Top Joy Stick Grip Joystick Yoke Fighter Jet
Bristol Control Column Yoke DAP Beaufort Beaufighter Blenheim Stick Grip RAF
Almost tempted myself!
I believe that a detonation ‘horn’ from a sea mine has been suggested.
I was just looking at the photo and thinking the same! – They contained a lead capsule full of acid IIRC which split when they were hit, depositing said acid into the fuse mechanism leading to a very big bang! ๐ฎ