Here are some more, one or two from SM:
Fantastic stuff Pete! Just about all of my Phantom pics are on slide, and I’ve still not got a quality system for scanning them.
I seem to remember on one of the last detatchment of Phantoms (74sqn) to Mawgan that one came back witha cracked radome or something?
For some reason I never saw an F.3 either.
On another tack, is anyone here in a position to list all the British Phantom survivors and their likely fates?
Very nice!:)
The 312 is the next Spitfire design study that I can find, it was the cannon armed wing variant to spec F.37/35 that I mentioned above – again not built, but I would assume led to the cannon armed production Spitfires.
On the site linked to by Zebedee there is mention of a Supermarine 306, Atlantic Mail Boat with four RR Vulture engines which was a 1935 design study.
It didn’t make it to the prototype stage, the only drawing I’ve seen of it on the ‘net is this, http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/personal-gallery/128937d1271813861-fantasy-aircraft-full-series-supermarine-type-305.jpg. I’m always a little bit wary of the secret projects/fantasy stuff though, people seem to get carried away and blur myth with reality a bit.
The drawing is based on one of three good illustrations and description of the VS305 on pages 39-42 of ‘Spitfire – The History’ book
What made it different to the Roc, Defiant, and Hotspur, the last three of which were designed to the same F.9/35 spec (Demon replacement), was the fact that the turret was remotely controlled.
Be intrigueing to know if it reached a mock-up stage, but my understanding was that it was only ever a design study with Vickers Supermarine, the cannon specification of F.37/35 seemed to have rendered the design and idea obsolete.
Depending how keen you are to know more, I could scan the pages in the book for you.
That was the original spec, but they are going to have to make it 370mm to fit in the boxes 😉
Very good 😀
However is this not based on one of the biggest misconceptions about British expansion era bomber designs?
It’s often said the the Stirling wingspan was reduced from the original 114ft to 99ft to fulfill a new spec (for all new bombers) calling for a span no greater than a 100ft so as to fit in the current hangars.
The most common hangar on operational RAF stations were the A Type with a 120ft clear span opening, and the new C Type which would dominate RAF bomber airfields by the late 1930s were of 150ft clear span opening.
Even the later mass built temporary T2 had an opening of 115ft.
It seems a real shame that the aircraft had its performance ‘clipped’ in this way, if Wiki is to be believed (?) the aircraft was otherwise highly regarded.
So why was the span really reduced?
Lovely pics Dogman, the RAF camo scheme was my favourite for the Phantom, at least one of those shots looks like it was taken at Mawgan?
Pretty trippy post from Trackmaster there, far better threads about to wind up cockpiteers, suffice to say that I’m guessing that keeping a whole Phantom in your back garden could be challenging!
Thanks John, great pics from the end of the last great era for RAF Cold War.
What’s the story there suu23, looks like a Phantom (inc. F.3/F-4Js) from most squadrons in one place, but out of use.
Were they taken there as decoys or something?
Suppose I could do a scheme like this on my 73 Mach1
Noooo! I prefer its current RAF trainer or Sea King SAR yellow scheme!:p
The video of the Sunderland landing on the grass strip at Angle was added to this thread (post #20)http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=68232
The video was purchased and kindly added to Youtube and this forum by CarolineC, whos father was one of the crew members on that Sunderland flight.
I wonder if a mod. can perhaps change the title of this thread (or even merge the two threads) as it’s completely unrelated to St Mawgan.
There’s a little bit of info on Pawlett here, http://www.airfieldinformationexchange.org/community/showthread.php?6145-Pawlett-Balloon-Hangar
Seems the site may have been a range with the balloon hangar relocated to it?
I hope Baz doesn’t mind me posting this, but this is his Canberra cockpit being lowered into Spitfire Corner.

When it came to moving a Vixen cockpit off a trailer in a very tight yard and into a confined garage I really was in awe of the trolley jack and plank manoeuvering kills of our Timbo and Bamel!:)


Talking of which there seems to be quite a few Nimrod componants on different auction/sales sites, at reasonable prices, seems to be an awful lot of seats about.
Almost a bigger sin than spelling pasty incorrectly, eh Pagey? 😉
This from someone who uses the word “aswel” on a regular basis:D:D
My use of ‘pasty’ (pasty, pasties) and ‘aswel’ can be put down to my bad spelling and grammer, though both words are seen in those spellings – however hanger and hangar are two different words with very different meanings.
When an object has a distinct word or name it needs to be right – just my nit picking.:)
My point is that even Google appears to have it wrong in this case.:D
As for the contents it sounds like the usual myth about aviation treasure lying undiscovered, but probably worth checking out if possible.