I really don’t believe undeveloped roll film dating back to Pearl Harbour is lightly to survive.
For the third time today, Harbor!:)
Possibly because the other thread revolved around a not particularly amusing internet phoney regarding Pearl Harbor shots surviving in a Box Brownie, which was a repitition of a previous thread anyway.
Hopefully you will have something unique and genuine to share with us all later.:)
It’s been on here before Tony, and frankly I don’t believe the story at all.
Unless someone had a hugely more capable box brownie than standard and absolutely perfect film storage conditions!:rolleyes:
Oh, and Pearl Harbour is Pearl Harbor😉
I think JDK is probably right with the orthochromatic film bit (yellow sometimes appearing dark), it’s such a big blow up of a small area of a picture that we could be looking at the yellow ring around the roundel.
jeepman – yes, of course but it’s stating the obvious, isn’t it?
It may be, but some of the figures emerging here are new to some of us and it kind of puts things into perspective in what the money can achieve elsewhere within the organisation.
Jet Provost T.5 XW324 at St Athan now.
The one nearest Watergate Bay was the Watchman Radar tower, the other close to the old watch office was the SSR tower (Secondary Surveillance Tower), both worked together and were built in the early 90’s and decomissioned in Dec 2008.
Not quite, the one built nearest Watergate (Watchman?) was built when I was there and have pics of it going up somewhere, I’m guessing 1999-2000?
certainly both operated together when it was completed.
I’m guessing this replaced the old radar head (AR15) that was atop a low brick building on the left just as you go on to Trebelzue from the domestic site.
Agree with Baz, the red brick building that you mention is either the Cricket Pavillion or the TACAN building.
Very nice, they didn’t hang around with applying the paint – looks absolutely just so:)
That should definitely be the first question asked in a showroom, will it tow a helicopter?:)
That should definitely be the first question asked in a showroom, will it tow a helicopter?:)
Genuine question, what difference does it actually make?
Whenever I have had the good fortune to have seen the CAF at work (including a CP-140 ride) they always seem an efficient and well disciplined armed forces in the way that they work and so on.
Lightning strikes, retro schemes, etc all existed in CAF times, red arctic markings are rare in this day and age with most forces, and are all superficial anyway in the greater scheme of things.
I must admit I’m surprised by the move and was half expecting that the British armed forces would probably follow and end up as a combined force in years to come.
A couple of CAF CP-140s of 405 & 415 Sqns celebrating their past



Sorry should have been more precise, I haven’t heard of the two military serialed Hunters flying at shows, that’s not to say they absolutely haven’t though.
WR972 started out with the RAE in the standard maritime extra dark sea grey and white top but with nose, tail, fins (not the rudders), and tip tanks in silver. It then appeared in all over silver/natural metal with the underside yellow/black target tug stripes, before getting the final white, light grey, and dark blue scheme.
WG557 when with the Weapons Flight of the RAE was in extra dark sea grey top with white undersides, a reversal of the standard finish and with the demarcation line futher down the fuselage sides. It briefly wore ‘ROYAL NAVY’ legends on the rear fuse in its final ETPS days, the black bands were applied over wings (also on WR972) to hide the effects of exhaust soot
I heard that you need different permits for air shows to what you need for other work. Ie a pilot can fly an a/c over here from abroad but that doesnt mean he can display it. Hence why we dont get German Phantoms any more much is the pity.
We don’t get German Phantoms flying at UK airshows because the German Airforce won’t perform at any airshow, I’m not certain but I think this came in after Ramstein.
You are right in general though, a permit to fly is different to a permit to display, though that doesn’t rule out a static appearance.
For example I have never seen or heard of HHA Hunters, or say the MB Meteors, performing at public airshows, but I have seen the Meteors parked in static parks.
BTW HHA do post here, so may be worth sending a PM.
This has got to be a joke. The Polish are criticising us?
So screw you Polish!
Nice – after everything they did (do) for us VeeDee.:rolleyes:
Hasn’t this latest Polish thing come about because of that well known picture that was shown all around the world? You know the one, where the disgusting UK yobs looted, while a Polish woman jumped out of a window to save her life amongst a blazing backdrop – I would say that some Polish people have good reason to think what they do about some English people.
Watch out for those battenberg emblazoned paragliders now!:eek: