Puncture

Chris Evans plays a lawyer with a drug problem taking the might of corporate America. A true story with a great performance by Chris Evans.

Centurion

A cold miserable looking film about a Roman Legion in the land of the Picts. Good adventure story. Quite gory in places.

Isolation

A creature/ experiment-gone-wrong horror film set in a dairy farm in Ireland. Honestly. OK I suppose but a bit one-dimensional.

#45

It’s not debatable whether or not the IPCC were wrong. They were wrong – period. They were not just wrong they were fraudulent – they cooked the books. It was reported that they falsified information including computer modelling programs – how much verifiable evidence do you need ?

The very people appointed and financially supported by the world’s governments – that’s you and me, to investigate the substance or lack of it of global warming, cooked the books. There is no gentle way of putting it.

Yet you persist in giving them the benefit of the doubt. I suppose you still believe in Father Xmas !

Fortunately you’re in a minority. The broad mass of commonsensical people are dismissive of these crazy notions and are content to accept that somethings are outside of human control.

The pity is that before we regain some balance in these and other related matters it will cost all of us a shed load of treasure to pay for the stupidity of our politicians.

John Green

Your inability to actually read what I wrote and indulge in any sort of proper debate without resorting to insults means I will leave you to your “belief system”. I hope it works out for you.

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

Only 1/2 correct. The drought was not caused by humans, or the wind.
Bad farming practices combined with those two nature events caused the dustbowl.

Likewise the London fog. Because of its location, London has always had fog.
The man made pollution made it a killer in the famous 50s event.

So in both cases, you can say man-caused events made a natural situation worse, but they were not completely man-caused.

A slight understatement I would suggest; or put another way, humans turned normal weather events into catastrophes.

Moggy has it in a nutshell.

So we are discussing different things? Ah OK…..

You said that humans could not change the environment – I have shown that they can. Local or global it doesn’t matter to those affected does it? The dust bowl affected millions of people over half a continent – a little bigger than “local”

Climate Change is something global whose effects will be local in nature.

Who can say that Krakatoa had no effect in the long term. How can you possibly know what would have happened to the climate if it hadn’t happened? Same as now – we don’t know what effect we might have in the future so why take the chance?

A belief system? That is very probably the funniest statement I have ever read on here.

Deforestation – caused by humans – FACT
Acid Rain – caused by humans – FACT
London smog of the 1950s – caused by humans – FACT
1930s US dustbowl – caused by humans – FACT

I could go on.

There many many more examples that go to build up my “belief system”.

You’ll be telling me next that the contamination caused by nuclear detonation was some natural event.

Humans ARE capable of destroying in the environment. Whether the current climate change is down to humans is debatable but should we take the chance that the IPCC might be wrong? What if they are right and we did nothing?

Fascinating history lesson, not sure what is has to do with the rest of the thread but fascinating nonetheless.
Still doesn’t explain away the fact that humans can have a devastating effect on the environment if allowed to.

Arthur Pewty, it seems like your only remit here is to contradict someone elses points, certainly going off all your posts in GA, therefore you have pretty well devalued your own opinions as far as I can see – you picked an apt user name!

I thought we had a saying about playing the ball not the man?

It appears that there are those on this forum that have a problem with opinions that may differ from their own. Those people should maybe look up what an internet forum is actually for.
Maybe it is the case there are so many ill-informed opinions on here that contradiction is so very easy. :p

In what way is my user name apt? You do know what it means don’t you?

I’m no psychiatrist and I can only guess that there is some deep compulsion on the part of humans to be seen to be ‘good’. Some conscience attached to the good life, principally in the West, that makes them enthusiastically grab and wear a hair shirt, thus redeeming – at least in part, their feelings of guilt.

Duhh! Humans wanting to be good eh? What are we like! Isn’t that a good thing? Better than being “evil” I would suggest. :diablo: