Male (If asking what one is…)
Here’s a tough one
Humphry Bogart or James Cagney???
Biofuel
Nazism or Communism????
Biofuel
Nazism or Communism????
Republic
PC or Mac?
Republic
PC or Mac?
It does seem some fighters need wing tip devices / missile rails such as the F-5, F-16 and F/A-18. The Typhoon and SU-27 use wingtip pods (ESM / ECM?) Some like the F-104 and Mirage F-1 had wing tip missiles or with the F-104, optional wing tip fuel tanks.
Wing tip missiles are a good way to quickly add a cople of extra missles, esp for self defence. Sure, why not add them to the J-10 considering its not a stealth fighter.
[QUOTE]They really didn’t have anything else to put there (say an empty rocket or gun pod of some sort?) besides a friggin’ toilet?
Gives new meaning to dropping a load of sh1t on the enemy……
White Wine
Who to snog: Anne Widdecombe or Camilla???
White Wine
Who to snog: Anne Widdecombe or Camilla???
or an F-15E.
Imagine single seat F-4’s or Tornados….these were proposed at one time!
How could such a massive, wide-ranging and expensive conspiracy be kept secret for so long?
Wot Grey Area says in an interesting and pretty valid point. Up to 500,000 people worked on the moon landin prog in the 60’s and early 70’s. Can a secret be held by so many? Even if 1% of these were in the know, that’s still 5,000 people or so. Can 100 people keep a secret let alone thousand?
This reminds me of the Cottingley Faries incident in 1917. Not too far from my neck of the woods, here in England / Britain.
As some of you will be no doubt aware, the Cottingley Fairies was a hoax played by two young schoolgirls,Frances Griffiths and Elsie Wright. Did the fairies exist? Where did they come from?
To cut a long story short, the faries were cardboard cut outs. If done today, then then everyone would shout “Photoshopped”. However, back then it was indeed a big story. And continued to be for decades. Even Athur Conan Doyl, the creator of Sherlock Homes was taken in! Looking at the faries today, its perhaps hard to see how people were conned. But conned they were. Then again, it must be remembered that photography for the masses was still a fairly new art and people were not used to image reproduction as they are today.
In 1981 – 1982, Elsie and Frances were interviewed. Elsie admiteed all five photos had been faked. Frances claimed one of the faireis was real. Both claimed the saw faireis for real.
In 1983, Elsie and Frances, 81 and 75 yrs old respectively, finally came clean and confessed that the fairies were tracings cut out and set in place with hat pins.
So even after many decades, a hoax was laid bare by the original hoaxers. And this was just TWO school girls!!! The truth will always come out if given enough time I guess. If and I say IF the moon landings are a hoax, we need to hear from those involved at the VERY HIGHEST level…..not those who want 15 mins of fame or with an axe to grind.
How could such a massive, wide-ranging and expensive conspiracy be kept secret for so long?
Wot Grey Area says in an interesting and pretty valid point. Up to 500,000 people worked on the moon landin prog in the 60’s and early 70’s. Can a secret be held by so many? Even if 1% of these were in the know, that’s still 5,000 people or so. Can 100 people keep a secret let alone thousand?
This reminds me of the Cottingley Faries incident in 1917. Not too far from my neck of the woods, here in England / Britain.
As some of you will be no doubt aware, the Cottingley Fairies was a hoax played by two young schoolgirls,Frances Griffiths and Elsie Wright. Did the fairies exist? Where did they come from?
To cut a long story short, the faries were cardboard cut outs. If done today, then then everyone would shout “Photoshopped”. However, back then it was indeed a big story. And continued to be for decades. Even Athur Conan Doyl, the creator of Sherlock Homes was taken in! Looking at the faries today, its perhaps hard to see how people were conned. But conned they were. Then again, it must be remembered that photography for the masses was still a fairly new art and people were not used to image reproduction as they are today.
In 1981 – 1982, Elsie and Frances were interviewed. Elsie admiteed all five photos had been faked. Frances claimed one of the faireis was real. Both claimed the saw faireis for real.
In 1983, Elsie and Frances, 81 and 75 yrs old respectively, finally came clean and confessed that the fairies were tracings cut out and set in place with hat pins.
So even after many decades, a hoax was laid bare by the original hoaxers. And this was just TWO school girls!!! The truth will always come out if given enough time I guess. If and I say IF the moon landings are a hoax, we need to hear from those involved at the VERY HIGHEST level…..not those who want 15 mins of fame or with an axe to grind.
Personally, I think that the Britain, if wanting to be a “major player”, should equip the RAF with at leat an F-15E sized, if not an FB-111 sized and ranged A/C. A “Super Vulcan” would be nice but too pricey. And would have to be redisigned for stealth.
I feel that whilst the Tornado is a good tactical A/C, it has too short a range to give the RAF strategic punch.
As for ex USAF B-1’s I feel the US will want these for spare parts.
What you have to remember SSS is that there’s a healthy conspiracy industry. Whether it be the Moon landings, JFK, Princess Di, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, The Loch Ness Monster, UFO’s / Li’l Green Men, Big Foot or Sept 11. The conspiracy theorists put forward their claims, however fanciful. Then it becomes a case of challenging and de-bunking the conspiracy theories – everyone ends up like a dog chasing its own tail and ultimately getting nowhere.
I have a neighbour for example, who is convinced that someone or something is going into his house and moving his stuff and tampering with his computer eqpt / files. He referes to them as “white witches”. He even carries his data around on a removable DVD device. How would you or I convince him he is perhaps suffering from paranoid delusions??? Esp if what he believes, he believes so strongly!!!
This is similar with conspiracy theories….if a nation acheives a major event or has a major event happen to it, looses a national / international icon, then conspiracies come out of the woodwork and thus an organisation such as NASA for example or MI5 have to put a lot of energy into proving that the moon lanings were real or that they were not involved in the murder of a member of the British royal family.
What you have to remember SSS is that there’s a healthy conspiracy industry. Whether it be the Moon landings, JFK, Princess Di, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, The Loch Ness Monster, UFO’s / Li’l Green Men, Big Foot or Sept 11. The conspiracy theorists put forward their claims, however fanciful. Then it becomes a case of challenging and de-bunking the conspiracy theories – everyone ends up like a dog chasing its own tail and ultimately getting nowhere.
I have a neighbour for example, who is convinced that someone or something is going into his house and moving his stuff and tampering with his computer eqpt / files. He referes to them as “white witches”. He even carries his data around on a removable DVD device. How would you or I convince him he is perhaps suffering from paranoid delusions??? Esp if what he believes, he believes so strongly!!!
This is similar with conspiracy theories….if a nation acheives a major event or has a major event happen to it, looses a national / international icon, then conspiracies come out of the woodwork and thus an organisation such as NASA for example or MI5 have to put a lot of energy into proving that the moon lanings were real or that they were not involved in the murder of a member of the British royal family.