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  • in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2139718
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    Mach Boom. Mirage IV (FAS)
    There was a lot of training area around.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2139873
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    Studies showed that it wasn’t actually much louder than anything else. Cant believe we have aviation fans buying into this scam. It was a green scam.

    This is not true. Simply not. A large supersonic airplane not designed for smoothed sonic bang will scare the hell out of any civilians.
    We had bangs over my city when I was kids (Jags and IV).
    Read post from Swerve also.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2140196
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    “Kill”? or try to influence a major partner to join them on a costly project? C’mon John Hollow le Carré, using both words “Kill and “CIA” in the same sentence on the internet sounds rather a free call to the conspirationist, would you agree?

    The french word used in the Challenge report, citing the Financial Times, is “Pression” = putting pressure on someone. That’s a strong words but still another thing.

    Le Financial Times est revenu jeudi 20 juillet sur les pressions de la CIA sur le projet du Concorde à travers la publication de documents déclassifiés.

    Edit:
    Obviously nothing against John Le Carre that stand as a master author in the espionage genre.

    in reply to: Military Aviation News #2140256
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    Following the news linked above by Tango III:
    Israel AF celebrates Syrian Air Defense day destroying a Sa5 SAM site

    [It turns out that the same SA-5 site that fired on IAF fighters last March was the one that attacked the Israeli aircraft today, and was subsequently destroyed.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2140260
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    there were playing with CG and lift vector… on the low speed, small scale model… stating that they learned something. In other words, they are far from anything like starting an aircraft project.

    in reply to: Not a very flattering profile of the F14 #2140379
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    it had better AoA than the Su27, F15 or F16. Not bad for a … brick 😉

    in reply to: Not building the B-70 when we could have was really dumb #2140382
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    @Sintra:
    I like that one :

    Neither the Wright Brothers, Santos Dumont or Elon Musk received that particular memo. And i have my doubts that the Douglas Aircraft Company had received that same memo in 1932/33 when they decided to design the DC-1.
    […]
    And the military got aeroplanes because chaps like a pair of American Bycicle makers, a Brasilian Coffee Grower or a French engineer decided to break the technological edge on their own expenses.

    Well, Bleriot did get to work with Louis Bechereau, that use to work with Deperdussin (the record plane manufacturer from the same name and originally a fine lingerie maker. Before that Béchereau had worked with Clément Ader that didn’t let him much initiatives (Béchereau was a specialist in monocoques structures) and will later work with Bleriot building the famous line of SPAD. So, in effect, the “French engineer” would be more represented by the friend of a panties maker* 😉

    *History has enough fun to to make use of it!
    ** To me, Béchereau is the finest french engineer of that era, the only one at the same level of the Wright brothers. It’s a disgrace that his name still remains largely unknown.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2140469
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    You are right, but your timeline is incorrect. Concorde was a superb airplane but it effectively killed the R&D effort for a supersonic airliner. When something can not be achieved at raw, gradual steps are to be taken.
    We went from the Breguet XIV to the DC2, from the Dornier Do-J to the DC3, from the 397 to the 707… There would have been aircraft filling gradually the step from subsonic jets to Mach2 flight.
    Now that the market is open again, it attracts new investment.

    Prudently however, none of the big manufacturer have stepped in, probably fearing a surge of patriotic market killing big national projects. Even that was changed forever. We will never know what a skunkworks, phantomworks or a Convair team will have done for us, you and me, to travel in a supersonic airliner for relatively cheap. And decade would have to be waited.
    THIS is per definition the Dark age of aviation: the paper pusher middle age.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2140536
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    What would you have expected? Airbus management press stuffs are like dating adds on a porn website…

    Regarding your comment: Concorde’mission still stand as a valid one. The plane was a trick, that’s it.

    in reply to: Not building the B-70 when we could have was really dumb #2140538
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    Beyond all, cost barrier was where the Valkyrie couldn’t go. Think Blackbird, Skunkworks and 1960’s CIA. Small scale, strategic priority, high cost. It’s doubtful that 200 units of such could have been sustainable leaving the SAC without a massive fleet, what was at the base of deterrence.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2140549
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    true. But you get the idea.
    The 707, DC8, 880 etc… were not subsidized. To the point that failure on the civilian market precipitated the fall of some well established defense giants.
    It was one thing to help SNACSE to build the Caravelle at a time when the design bureau were all raising from the ashes of WWII. Directly financing an aircraft that costed far beyond anything seen before (to achieve the set of performances required) knowing that it will never reach anything like a sustainable economical model was a direct cutout from an exemplary model: it was an anachronism, a beautiful and fast like hell anachronism, but something that cut the aviation industry from their natural goal: flying masses farther and faster more economically.

    Think about that, who would have invested for a Mach 1.2/1.6 aircraft before the Concorde were even towed back to the hangar for the last time? None.

    in reply to: The Concorde legacy and its effect on all aviation #2140700
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    And the jet did stay in service till 2003. If it was truly a clear cut waste of money, it would have been cancelled far sooner.

    This probably outside Europe. France and UK just got the thing in line for prestige and practicality for those travelling regularly across the Atlantic. See it as a state sponsored business jet, what it was since inception.
    Fr and UK hadn’t any possibility to make a supersonic airliner truly profitable for the industry*. So, they cut the corner…
    and the entire Supersonic airliner dream went down the flush for the next 50 years.

    A beautiful airframe for sure but a baneful outcome for aviation.

    *like everyone else at the time

    in reply to: Military Aviation News #2140895
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    Cargo plane carrying French army personnel crashed in Ivory: 4 dead

    Security guards on site said the plane was carrying material for the French army. It was unclear how many people were inside the plane.

    The plane wreckage, broken into pieces, was scattered in the shallow waters.

    Paris confirmed the death of 4 from Moldavia and 4 injured Fr personnel. Photo on the BBC website suggest an An-24

    EDIT:
    Crashed during landing phase. An26-100 registered RA-26556, Built in 1975 (“le mardi 30 septembre 1975′) registration nbr 57303204. 42 years in service. Registered in Moldova in 2005. Afreted by the Fr army (special cargo).

    Sources:
    https://www.fratmat.info/index.php/nos-unes/crash-d-avion-a-abidjan-l-anac-nomme-une-enquetrice-en-chef-et-fait-des-precisions
    https://www.journalducameroun.com/crash-dun-avion-a-abidjan-lantonov-de-fabrication-sovietique-totalisait-42-ans-dexploitation/

    in reply to: Military Aviation News #2140899
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    in reply to: Eurofighter crash in Spain. #2140952
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    look like he fainted. doesn’t seems to have any late input on the ctrl… Sad. Let’s hope family was not seating on the ramp.

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