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April 19, 2005 at 2:28 pm in reply to: WW2 "piggy-back" pick-ups? #1347026

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The McKennon incident – from “1000 Destroyed” – read here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~johnrlove/1000_destroyed/chptr23.html

Martin

April 19, 2005 at 2:23 pm in reply to: WW2 "piggy-back" pick-ups? #1347028

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Several P-51D cases – some successful, some not……

4th FG ace Pierce W. McKennon was rescued by his wingman, for example; and there is at least one case in the 355th FG from Steeple Morden.

Do you want me to dig out the details ?
Martin

April 19, 2005 at 12:54 pm in reply to: Easy Spit quiz? #1347103

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😀 This one ? 😀

April 19, 2005 at 9:15 am in reply to: Classic photo #1347635

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actually that’s a closeup from the earlier photo

April 19, 2005 at 7:45 am in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1347701

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Okay – let’s keep records straight: – the 4th FG had various two-seaters, but the plane Gen. Eisenhower was taken over the beaches came courtesy of the 354th FG and was nicknamed “The Stars Look Down” and carried code GQ-π (serial 43-6877)

Here are two photos of that particular ship

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 9:21 pm in reply to: La Ferte Alais airshow programme #1348405

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Yep MS 406 will be with us )

🙂 🙂 🙂

with new color scheme (french color)

🙁

Technically it’s a D-3801 and is a development based on the MS-406

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 3:08 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1348805

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So it’s 44-13753…… former MC-Y “Kitty & Bunny” of Charles R. Hamme, and then “Betsy” of Russell W. Bebout……

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 2:43 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1348834

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Hey

that small photo of MC-Y – I don’t think it’s “Janey Girl II from Texas” – the nickname looks different and it therefore could well be the elusive ‘other’ MC-Y, i.e. 44-72256, which ended up in Switzerland, too, as J-2028…… or it is indeed 44-72383 but with another nickname ? I definitely have to pull out some books tonight !

I concur with your views on our thread – even if it’s a dialog, many forumites have learned something today.

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 2:26 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1348860

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My hands are “switching” (sweating and itching at the same time) – another new photo !

I owe you big !
Thanks Syd

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 2:07 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1348986

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Robert Scott, the pilot of “Bertie’s Bet II/Miss Martha” never liked the a/c as well as his P-51C (#43-25054 Hell’s Belle while being flown by Lt. Willard Lewis/ Beaverhead Filly while flown by Lt. Keith Price/ Bertie’s Bet – Shoot You’re Faded with Scott). The P-51C lasted through over 700 combat hours and was finally crashed near Munich post-war. Now I finally know his second assigned aircraft also soldiered on for quite some time with the Swiss AF.

That crash-landing (damage Cat. 3) occured on 21 August 1945 at R-85 “Camp Rattle”, i.e. Neubiberg A/B, where the 357th FG was stationed as part of the Occupation Air Force (9th AAF). Pilot was Lt. Donald M. Barnard.
He came from Sta 367 King’s Cliffe.

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 1:46 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1349030

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The serials were added prior delivery – tonight I will email you a better scan where you can see details of the rather crudely applied numbers.

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 1:39 pm in reply to: Merlin70 – Derivative. New arrival. #1349038

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Congrats and all the best to you and your family !

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 1:33 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1349199

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YIKES – just spilled my coffee……..!!! 😮

That’s the one ! Another gap filled in my records ! Awesome find !

PM is on the way !

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 1:27 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1349221

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ACK! 😮 My mistake, you are right, it was MC-Y, flown by Walt Yarbrough, I have no clue where I pulled MC-L from… Do you have any photos of #44-72316?

No sweat…..

I only have ‘316 in 20th FG colors on delivery to Switzerland in March 1948, side-by-side with ‘383.

Martin

April 18, 2005 at 1:19 pm in reply to: Wartime Two-Seater Mustang #1349235

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So now we have 43-12185 coded MC-N, MC-W and MC-Q
and 43-25056 “Bond Baby?” as two confirmed two-seater conversions used by the 79FS?

43-25056 is confirmed as two-seat conversion –
43-12185 is said to have been coverted, too, but the photo of yours tells a different story – at that time it was a single-seater.

I was also wondering if you had the serial number of the second 79th. P-51 that was sent to the Swiss AF, I know one was #44-72383 (MC-L),the former “Janey Girl II From Texas“, was the other #44-72316 (MC-S) “Bertie’s Bet II / Miss Martha“?

The serials are correct, but your code MC-L is new to me – I had it alsways as MC-Y…… (see photo)

44-72383 became J-2029, 44-72316 became J-2037

Please send me more info on this one [email]martin@REMOVEswissmustangs.ch[/email] (make sure you take out REMOVE)

Thanks
Martin
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