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  • September 7, 2005 at 5:00 pm in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1406480
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    The other hundred:

    42-25539/25638 Republic P-47D-22-RE Thunderbolt (100) to USSR. Obviously not all of them got there; six a/c out of this batch are reported lost with USAAF units (MACRs)…..

    Martin

    September 7, 2005 at 4:54 pm in reply to: P-51D-5-NA G-MRLL #1406659
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    Then why run down the efforts of those who do and then take the time to display it for the enthusiasts.

    Which part of my statement above (repeated below) don’t you understand ?

    I never questioned the efforts these gentlemen do in restoring/rebuilding historic aircraft to airworthy condition – they are to be congratulated and thanked.

    Martin 😡

    September 7, 2005 at 4:51 pm in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1406661
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    “Knights of Pythias” it is

    Martin

    September 7, 2005 at 4:05 pm in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1406697
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    1: 42-75202 – P-47D-10-RE; This plane was bought with money of American senators. It had personal name ‘Knight of Pythias’. It was tested in Middle of 1944 in NII VVS and LII.

    2: P-47D-22-RE; Unit: 255th IAP, Northern Fleet (nothing further known)

    3: P-47D-27-RE; Unit: 255th IAP, Northern Fleet (nothing further known)

    4: 42-27023; P-47D-27-RE; Unit: 255th IAP, Northern Fleet (nothing further known)

    September 7, 2005 at 3:08 pm in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1406733
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    How many models did Russia get? I had seen picture of early P-47B and/or C’s. I didn’t know that they also received later P-47D’s. 😀

    officially 203 D-models – for earlier variants I have to check

    the first 103 D’s (as per Baugher’s site) are….

    42-27015/27064 to USSR under Lend-Lease (50)
    42-27115/27164 to USSR under Lend-Lease (50)
    42-75201/75203 to USSR under Lend-Lease (3)

    the other 100 I will search for

    other sources only state 195 a/c delivered – maybe the difference is those a/c that were lost in transit…

    Martin

    September 7, 2005 at 3:07 pm in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1406735
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    Right – the “Multinational Bolts” photo is the one I have

    as for the DF-loop: I have many photos of P-47’s turned over to the Chinese Nationalist Air Force in 1945 -> they all are ‘adorned’ with similar DF-loops; also most of the P-51’s and P-38’s (incl. their recon-versions) operating in the CBI had such modifications.

    Martin

    September 7, 2005 at 9:17 am in reply to: P-51D-5-NA G-MRLL #1407305
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    aw comeon – you act like somebody pi$$ed in your teapot –

    we (T J and myself) asked questions as historians do – and since we both do know a little bit about warbirds, especially P-51’s, we’ve seen many things under this sun already.

    I for myself stated that I love to see another airworthy Mustang – because a Mustang it surely is.

    I never questioned the efforts these gentlemen do in restoring/rebuilding historic aircraft to airworthy condition – they are to be congratulated and thanked.

    I am also very well aware of the requirements from the Authorities for the registration of historic aircraft.

    And I do like to learn and accept new facts as they transpire.

    So can anyone step forward and actually show us those “substantial remains”, “virtually complete fuselage” or whatever is the basis for this project, to enlighten us ?

    Or do we not deserve to see such evidence because we are the bad boys and asked the wrong questions ?

    Cordially
    Martin

    September 6, 2005 at 4:08 pm in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1408501
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    Rob

    this will need some more research but from my experience / knowledge on aircraft supplied to Russia, this most probably was a new aircraft.

    It was common to have “representation aircraft” bought through war bonds given special coverage, and by sending such aircraft to (then) brothers in arms was considered as an effective propaganda. I also have photos of representation P-39’s & P-40’s sent to Russia.

    Speaking of propaganda: There exist photographs from Republic (and also other manufacturers such as North American Aviation), where aircraft with many different nationality markings share the ramp at the production facilities. In many cases these marking were applied for propaganda purposes only and the aircraft never saw service with the Air Force they ‘represented’ – Those marking, however, often varied from the “right stuff”. I will scan/post such a photo of P-47’s tonight (with a Russian P-47, too).

    In general the history of represenation aircraft is a fascinating topic and sure needs more research.

    Cordially
    Martin

    September 6, 2005 at 3:39 pm in reply to: Nicknames that stuck #1408544
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    The Swiss AF referred to the Dh-100’s as “Vämpi” – the Dh-112 as (translated) “wooden bomber” – the Mirage IIIS fighter versions were called “MIRO”, whil the Mirage IIIRS Recon Ships were named “AMIR” – The F-5E Tiger are known as “Lego-Aircraft” (from the famous plastic toy producer).

    September 6, 2005 at 11:00 am in reply to: P-51D-5-NA G-MRLL #1409216
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    Maybe its the spirit of the original aircraft!

    Perfect ! I just love that thought ! The aircraft’s spirit lives on, like the one of the lost pilot. And together they provide high cover.

    Martin

    September 6, 2005 at 10:56 am in reply to: Very sad news. The forum may like to offer its support. #1409225
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    This is terrible news.

    sent an e-mail to Dan.

    Will light two candles tonight.

    Martin

    September 5, 2005 at 9:12 am in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1411347
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    September 5, 2005 at 9:03 am in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1411363
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    and a USAF variant of “Russian” P-47’s

    Martin

    September 5, 2005 at 9:02 am in reply to: Russian P-47 Thuds #1411374
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    Rob

    how about that ?

    Blue skies
    Martin

    September 2, 2005 at 11:57 am in reply to: S Korea – Aviation museum? #1414452
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    That’s the War Museum in Seoul – see below link for some impressions

    and nope – they do not have a P-61

    http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Travel2/seoul/79

    Martin

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