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  • in reply to: Control Grip indentification. #821202
    Gin Ye Daur
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    No,

    That’s on the throttle handles, I think it may be something to do with the auto pilot or, feel cut off, my pilot’s notes are buried in the garage somewhere!

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #821269
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    Re. #1898

    Perhaps, Walrus or Seagull?

    GYD

    in reply to: Control Grip indentification. #821317
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    Hi JDH,

    Yes, the safe/fire switch should move back and forth, just spray a little WD-40 (or any other reputable water dispersent anti seize product widely available on the open market!) and leave it for a few hours. You can also spray the whole grip with said product then wipe off, this will clean and bring it to life. Avoid any abrasive cleaning if you can.

    I will dig out my pilot’s notes to remind me what the buttons are for but, the trigger is obviously stores release, the top centre button is ‘Auto throttle clutch switch’ and I can’t remember what the front paddle switch is for?

    Martyn

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #821686
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    Bas,

    I must say that I have so far only encountered the smaller Dunlop plates, the plate on the German example uses only the upper screws to secure it, rather than the original four screw holes of the original Dunlop plate. There isn’t another plate lurking underneath perhaps??? (hoping).

    I suspect that the original Dunlop drawing ‘AC’ number has been erased as a result of the modification ‘ MOD A’ also etched on the panel, I am presuming that this has been done at the German factory rather than by Dunlop, hence the ‘SK’ code rather than an ‘AC’ code.

    All very interesting!!

    Martyn

    GYD

    in reply to: Control Grip indentification. #821689
    Gin Ye Daur
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    Indeed, AC14362 Section Ref 27J 453 – Sea Vixen

    You should see the size of the whole column assembly!

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]259522[/ATTACH]

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #822135
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    Hi Bas,

    Can you advise as to what the Dunlop ‘AC’ number is on your German example please? My references for Dunlop Tornado handles shows that the German/Italian IDS aircraft initially used the AC-66814, which was also used on the RAF F-3 prior to ‘HOTAS’ modification. Any new information regarding the part/drawing numbers of these handles will be useful!

    So far as I can work out, there are several different variations of the ‘early’ Tornado handle, the original GR1 being AC-66826 and then this, at some point being replaced by the ACA-1638 and the GR1(T) used the ACA-1640 but, I believe this latter handle to be for the rear instructors position as it has two ‘blanked off’ buttons and the front position retaining perhaps, the ACA 1638 (my conclusions, given the handles I have in my collection with corresponding RAF Form 731’s from identified aircraft). However, even just the change of an internal component or, switch or, indeed a cover for a switch; resulted in the ‘original’ but modified handle being given a different drawing number!!!

    Martyn

    GYD

    in reply to: Newark Spring 2018 Aeroboot Options #824081
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    Howard,

    I presume that the entry tickets sent out for the 3rd March will be utilised as legitimate entry for the re-arranged date then?

    Martyn

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #768507
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    Bas,

    I was thinking of doing a group photo at some point!

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #768546
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    My latest Soviet control column arrived today, ex-East German NVA Mig 21 Bis.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258758[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]258759[/ATTACH]

    GYD

    in reply to: Seen On Ebay 2018 #771519
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    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #772258
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    Hi visotka1,

    How very interesting, I look forward to hearing from you later!

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #772632
    Gin Ye Daur
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    Hi visotka1

    These are the only numbers/stamps I can find on the Mig 21 F-13 column, does it help???
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258502[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]258503[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]258504[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]258505[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]258506[/ATTACH]

    regards,

    Martyn

    GYD

    in reply to: Your Favourite Control Column Stick/Yoke/Grip! #773021
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    As there seems to be an obvious Soviet theme to recent posts, here are my latest acquisitions, long sought after one must say!

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258482[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258483[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258484[/ATTACH]
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258485[/ATTACH]

    First pair, Mig 23 and Mig 27 gosh! So many levers and hidden triggers and so different given the basic design of the aircraft! The singleton was offered as a Mig 19 but, looking at numerous web pictures it is more likely to be a Mig 21 F-13 – still quite rare I suppose?

    GYD

    in reply to: American Stick Grips #779600
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    Hi FP,

    The NAF (Naval Aircraft Factory) 1173 appears in several variations, the -1, -2 or-3 suffix. The suffix number represents the number of functions the handle supports, i.e. 1173-1 trigger only, 1173-2 trigger and ‘bomb’ button and 1173-3 trigger, bomb and (usually) rockets from a side operated switch. The design you have, is the ‘longer’ version that was used on mainly post WWII aircraft, helicopters, armoured fighting vehicles and others, including submarines! Most U.S. Navy fighting aircraft used this grip for a time but, it was a cut down version, about an inch shorter than your example. Why? I have no idea. The amount of these grips that appear on that well known auction site, stating they are from a Corsair, wildcat, Hellcat etc are disingenuous to say the least. However, the age of the grip can usually be determined by the colour of the trigger/bomb switch. Dull brick red = old, bright blood red = new. The style of wiring will also indicate age, braided insulation = old, PVC new. Additionally a true and genuine F-4U Corsair will have a ‘VS’ part number rather than a NAF one but, (short) NAF 1173’s’ were also used too, especially when the later rocket armed aircraft appeared after WWII.

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]258269[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]258270[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]258271[/ATTACH]

    GYD

    P.S. Ian, I’ve blagged your pictures!

    in reply to: Grip Stick Control 1950´s F-104 C-4 #783624
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    Hi Grip1,

    Welcome to the forum and complements of the season to you too!

    As Anon previously mentioned, this is indeed a ‘B-8/B-8A’ or, MC-2 Aircraft, handle control. It is a development of the B-5, B-6 and B-7 handles used throughout the changing needs of US Air Force aircraft since the mid 1930’s. Your grip is an early example identified by the ‘domed’ style switches and the early (green) type trim switch. This style of trim switch is also encountered on some B-7 grips too. As for the green colour? I have no idea, does it appear as a ‘Factory’ finish or something perhaps painted by someone to smarten it up? Generally speaking, they usually appear either black or grey. I have not encountered a green one! This type of switch soon gave way to the ‘coolie-hat’ style more associated with this grip.

    There are quite a few manufacturers of this style of grip, the most prolific being the ‘Guardian Electric Company’ (these are identified by a small shield stamped on the top of the grip with a capital ‘G’ inset), Mason and Bendix are the other main ones. Unfortunately, it is not possible to place a particular grip with a specific aircraft, unless of course you know where and who removed it! Even after directly speaking with Guardian and using serial numbers, there is no record of use after leaving the factory. These grips were used on an awful lot of aircraft (including non-indigenous US types), although, there are some minor changes to the grip’s development/use that were only used on certain aircraft. This can come in the form of the wrist support being removed or shortened, the Amphenol connector being of a certain design or specific use of different switch gear. Generally speaking, if it has the ‘Amphenol’ pin type connector (as in your example), it would be fitted to a ‘fixed wing’ aircraft and if it has no ‘pin’ connector and fits directly onto the column it is from a rotary wing aircraft but, like everything, this does not mean that is a hard and fast rule!!!
    A lot of the B-8 grips fitted to helicopters can be found with the type identification as part of their part numbering, eg 209-001-059-1, the 209 depicting the Bell type 209 ‘Cobra’. It certainly would be great if that were the case for the fixed wing types!

    However, my personal suggestion for your grips ‘likely’ use would be something like the P/F-80 or F-84 or similar vintage first generation jet.

    Hope that is of some help?

    Kind regards,

    GYD

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