Hi,

The ‘DH325’ will be the ‘QA’ inspectors stamp rather than anything to do with the manufacturer.

AM, the Mk1 Bucc grip fitted into an adaptor exactly as the Mk2 i.e.same the ‘push me pull you’ method of control.

Martyn

GYD

Hi,

Hopefully, beat Ian to this as I think he bid on it too!

Early Mk 1 Buccaneer, interesting as they changed the trim switch to the one similar to the Mk2 on later grips. Bruce (Mod) has some replacement side switches I believe.

Here is a link to a Mk1 cockpit but, it has the later trim switch in place.

http://i33.servimg.com/u/f33/14/33/56/79/01311.jpg

Martyn

GYD

Gentlemen:

Yesterday I completed (as far as I can for now) the refurbishment of a late model P-38(J or later) yoke I bought about a month ago on Ebay. Yes, it’s the pink one noted on this thread. It came out nicely but I need a couple of Guardian B5 or B6 type triggers to complete the restoration. Yeah, I know it’s a long shot, but…..do any of you know of a source for just the triggers? I’ve already tried a couple of stateside places – no luck. I know I could buy and cannibalize a couple of grips….but I’m trying to avoid that route. I’ll follow up on any recommendations.

Thank you all…and I hope each of you has grand plans for New Year’s Eve with family and/or friends and has a fine 2016 !

Swifter

Hi Nick,

Good job on that rather flamboyant P-38 yoke, a vast improvement!

I have just purchased a vintage B8 grip (via the e-vil medium, as you do), that was made by ‘ phaostron’, for me at least unknown company but, a little light ‘googling’ led to this: http://www.phaostron.com/replacement.html

Could be an alley worth trying for the triggers?

Martyn

GYD

Nice one Rob!

Certainly looks better than it did when we saw it at Newark!

Martyn

GYD

the f4 grip did use lower grip support and they also used with out… go to usaf museum dayton , ohio they must be wrong…… all army air corp used the same grip as p-51. p-40, p-39 , f-82 , p-47 and t-6 also navy aircraft most used the corsair type they had 3 types all the cats used the same grip also. and some army tanks… people are allways trying to stump they dummy …. a just had to fix a thought with a person on b-17 prop blades their were 4 drawing number blades they used and dc- 3 , c-47, b-25,
pby and a few others used the same blade due to the eng that was on the a/c p/ w 1830. please stop talking if you do not know the facts.. thank you

Hi Keldrup123,

As mentioned in my earlier post ‘I stand to be corrected’ !!! Which you have obviously taken the time to politely and succinctly put across, thank you.

My main point was, that it is very difficult to positively identify the US grips be they B5, B6, B7, B8 or, the Navy NAF 1173 series; unless it comes with a considerable lump of the column or provenance declaring its history. I wonder how many people have been ‘duped’ into buying what they believe is a P51 grip and it has actually come from a Bell 47 helicopter! Caveat emptor! The only B5 that can be, (as far as I am aware) attributed to a particular type are the ones fitted to the P39/63 which have the word ‘cannon’ etched below the button on the top of the grip, unless of course someone can elaborate further and elude to other peculiarities of this nature?

I also echo Tony’s statement above, museums are not the definitive answer to prove a point either, as many exhibits will originally be stripped upon receipt and take many years of sourcing replacement equipment to achieve display standard. However, I accept that is not always the case and I am sure some exhibits are indeed as complete as national security will allow.

However, I haven’t got a clue what you mean by the term ‘stump they dummy’ and what propellers have to do with a thread on stick grips/yokes, did I miss something?

GYD

To add a correction to your statement here, it should narrow it down a litte more:

The following meteors all had spade grips, not stick tops.

F1, F3, F4, T7.

This grip is most likely a Venom or Attacker as you say. For sheer numbers produced, it is probably Venom but that is not possible to tell from the part number alone.

David,

Indeed, quite right re. the ‘early’ Meatbox’s spade usage, I perhaps should have mentioned that, schoolboy error (over enthusiasm?)!!!

As an additional twist to the possibilities and complexities above perhaps, the Attacker also used the AC 10300 (normally associated with the Vampire T11) grip and the later Venom FB4’s also had a different grip too, the AC 12346 which is identical in all but number to the T11’s AC 10300 !!

Off on another completely different tangent, would you have any evidence of the AH8272 spade being used on the earlier Meteors? Air Min’s wonderful guide only shows it as Firefly, but all pictures I can find of Firefly’s show the grip with the ‘selectric’ button fitted, mine has the traditional brass firing button. Outside my comfort zone………… Nurse!

Martyn

GYD

Well, considering that two of the items started at a modest fiver and, £25 for an oxygen regulator is about right but, to spiral to such heights shows the insane depths some folk are willing to plunge for certain items. I, meanwhile, am sitting on my hands preventing myself from bidding on that Harrier pair mentioned above in post #344 !!!

GYD

Hello Ian, thank you for the welcome and your information. I have seen the GR4 grip on ebay, apart from the costing there will be an additional huge amount for postage to The Netherlands!
Anyway, i keep looking. Best regards, Bas

Hi again Bas,

Don’t worry too much about postal charges within the EU they are nothing compared to the astonishing and unjustifiable charges that the HMRC charge for things coming from outside the EU! I am certainly curtailing my buying from the US as a result!

It seems that the current price for a Tornado grip is between £250 and £350, you can pay a lot more if you want the column as well. However, Tornado’s are still current so be prepared to pay accordingly!

Martyn

GYD