XF940,
What a splendid collection! With perhaps a more than obvious ‘triangular’ interest?? Could you please expand on the identification of the grip on the extreme right of the bottom right hand picture, the grip looks familiar but the base is a puzzle – early Bucc???
Martyn
GYD
P.S. we are normal, its the others you have to worry about!!!
Probably more than were ever needed in service if you compare with the amount of Canberra B(I)8 yokes that still seem to be available!!
Martyn
GYD
F.B.
I fully agree with your observations regarding yoke ‘centre caps’ and the repro’s out there. I have been after one for my B57 yoke for a while now. I think I will have to succumb to making/turning a plain one down myself and making a decal to fill the void!
You have a nice collection of yokes by the way!
Cheers,
Martyn
GYD
Yes it came in a batch of instruments from an ATC unit out Cambridgeshire way. PM if you wish to take a look.
Sent!
Martyn
This was the ten yoke
Cheers Tony,
At least he sought the advice of a ‘trader’ to a more ‘acceptable’ price – like anything though, its only worth as much as you are willing to pay I suppose!
Martyn
GYD
Martyn -seems like a small world but looking through my shed I found a Mach meter marked up with what appears to be Venom 3 WX932 !
David,
Indeed, a small world. Can you remember how you came by it?
Martyn
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Tony, maybe it’s how ‘like’ is defined, but certainly the Nimrod MR.2s that I ever had a look in (and had a go on!) had very similar yokes to the early ones, which to my eye look based on the Comet yoke.
Differences from the Comet seem to be the C & N buttons added on, and the flanges and grips on the arms for where the pilots thumbs would lie, even the PTT buttons appear to be the same design. (End Quote)Enclosed are pictures for the comparison between the Comet and Nimrod yokes. Just as has been previously described above.
Also attached are pictures of the following yokes, Vickers Viking, Bristol Britannia and HS748.
On the subject of the Vickers Viking yoke, I seem to remember seeing a cockpit photo of a very early Viscount which had the same type of yoke, can anyone clarify or confirm this? I appreciate that the “later” viscount yokes were different in design. Ironically the Viscount yokes are also in demand with Star War collectors as I believe that an adaptation of this yoke appeared in one of the films.
Currently there is a nice VC-10 yoke for sale on ebay for a kings ransom, minus the PTT switch. These were very similar to the Vanguard yokes.
Fly.Buy,
have you got the ref. number for the VC 10 yoke – I can’t find it anywhere, maybe I’m spelling VC 10 wrong??
Martyn
GYD
Thanks for the identification! The full numbers on the grip are:
Type B-8-A
S/N 5200-875200
D/N 53C4719
G-56679It does also have the ‘G’ shield marking on the top of the right-hand side.
In fact (if I’d looked) it has the same numbers on it as the grip posted by Tony near the start of this thread! What other aircraft types could this have been fitted to; could it have come from a Phantom as I think that was suggested when I bought it?
Also, does anybody know what the white residue is that seems to ‘grow’ on this grip after it has been cleaned? It smells bloody awful!
Hi CD,
Unsure as to the exact use(s) for this part number but, the general grip design was/is used on quite a number of aircraft. However, the F4 grip does not have the wrist support. As a general rule, jets using this grip will have the connector plug socket at the base of the grip, helicopters using the B8 do not and are fitted directly to the column tube. However, there are some exceptions to this rule as the US Navy often fitted the grip straight onto the column too. The US Navy also had specific type grips for different aircraft. The only positive way to identify these (B8) grips is to have the column and grip removed as one and still firmly lock-wired together! Most frustrating.
Martyn
GYD
Can anybody identify this grip?
Hi CD,
Your grip is a standard B8A used in many and numerous applications however, I can just make out the number (53C) 4719, I have a similar grip fitted to an F86D stick, but it would have been used in other aircraft too. There are two main manufacturers of this style of grip, Mason and Guardian Electrics, if there is a little indented mark of a G inside a small shield at the top on the right hand side of the grip, this would indicate Guardian. The (red) buttons on your grip would indicate a 60’s era fitment – these were replaced by solid operating buttons in the early 70’s as the red caps commonly fell off!
Martyn
GYD
Hi Ian, do you want to PM your e-mail and I can send you some pix, that way and I can add a couple of the Etendard too (copyright and all that stuff). and not clog up the download quota!
Martyn
Yes, GR3 Tony. They were fitting them at St Athan when I took a school party. Had to ask what was happening to the old stick tops after they had been replaced but none came my way, unsurprisingly. There are a couple of lumps of Jag still decorating my classroom though including a big titanium shield they very kindly passed on.
I bought this grip as Jag, the vendor saying he worked on them. He later sold me the column which he claimed it came with. The overall shape, and particularly the knuckle don’t look Jag at all and in a previous post here it was decided as Mirage III. Slightly disappointing but does mean my ‘Falklands’ collection is coming together.
Hi Ian,
It’s a (Super) Etendard column! The Mirage III/V and the F1 have a ‘normal’ stick (like the Harrier), I knew I’d seen it somewhere, so your Falkland’s theme is still up and running!
Martyn
Regards the Harrier incident – the type had about a minute and a half of demin water to use in the hover. The T.4’s tended to get the hotter burning engines – I should imagine that middle of summer the hover performance wasn’t sparkling and by the sound of it a slow transition to forward flight contributed. The first generation Harriers where nowhere near as competent in the hover as the second.
David, are sure it was only a minute and a half’s worth of de-min? – they seem to have spent a lot longer than that ‘ovverin out side my servicing bay, I’ve got the tinnitus to prove it!
Martyn
GYD
I think that the Patrouille Suisse Hunters did a fantastic display immediately after the crash – once flying recommenced, that must have taken an awful lot of grit!
I too was at the opposite end of the runway, changing film however, I did manage a couple of ‘distant’ I was there shots!
Martyn
GYD
Hi Ian,
I knew it was something like that! A friend in the States offered me one a few years ago!
The B8 is from a Jet but, I can see the logic in your thinking. The trim is a four way selection, double detent trigger and single bomb/rocket release button.
Tony, PM returned!
Martyn,
GYD
Good evening all,
Ian, you are probably right regarding the ‘upgrade’ concerning 925’s column as I am sure most if not all the Harrier’s at Gut went through the Sidewinder mod however, I am of course open to correction to the more knowledgeable Harrier buffs!
Is your ‘mystery’ item the Bombardier’s auto pilot/flight control unit from a B17? (possibly, others too)
Tony, what would you consider for something to swap? I would love to increase my Soviet collection!
I remember watching the Fairford Mig29’s from the opposite end of the airfield, I was reloading film in my camera at the time not particularly interested as one had done a display earlier in the day. I remember that they followed an Aussie ‘Swinger’ and they did the impressive ‘torch’ flyby. I was impressed as I didn’t think a Mig 29 could do that trick as well! It was only after the huge cloud of smoke, a single ‘raspberry ripple’ chute and what seemed an awful long time before the second shute appeared, did I think to actually take any pictures!
My next offering: can anyone put an aircraft to this ‘different’ B8 grip?
Martyn
GYD