Hi Alex, thank you for that. I did wonder given their very close lineage!
Martynp,
If you are talking about the US ‘plastic’ B-5/6/7/8 and MC-2 series handles, it is just a naturally occurring oxidation that can simply be wiped off. It seems to depend on the atmosphere they are kept in and the type of plastic used in original manufacture and is not specific to just one producer. It is strange, as I have several handles made by Guardian Electric, Bendix, Ansul and Mason etc. all from different periods, some generate the oxidation yet some don’t!
Others on this forum may have different methods but, I use an old tooth brush and white spirit for the US handles and WD40 or, similar for the British ‘Dunlop’ handles. (obviously take the necessary and appropriate precautions when using any solvent, use gloves, adequate ventilation, away from sources of ignition etc. etc.).
Again, if you are referring to the cast metal part of a Dunlop handle, it too is oxidization. Gentle scouring/wire brush to get the ‘crust’ off (dust mask!) and clean using WD 40, dry and put a coat of paint over it (I generally use acrylics as, they tend to leave less brush marks or, spray using one of ‘Halfords’ finest acrylic rattle cans.
If there are some small/large ‘craters’ left after you have cleaned the crust off, use black coloured ‘Milli-putt’ epoxy modelling filler to fill in the holes, (use a wet finger before it sets to smooth it, rather than wait till it dries and use abrasives, remember not to lick finger at this point). Then a coat of paint as above.
But, remember the degree of how much you restore a grip is entirely up to you. However, Dunlop grips will only start to oxidize if the bare metal is exposed so, a coat of paint will protect it long term. If you want to preserve it’s originality, you must stabilise it before you paint it.
One way to prevent the oxidization from happening again and also to protect the rubberised ‘Vulcanite’ covering on Dunlop grips (as they age, the rubber degrades and wipes off, turning your hand black), is to give them a coat of ‘Kleer’ floor wax, (called ‘Future’ wax in the US I believe). However, as the many modellers here will tell you, ‘Kleer’s’ formula has changed and it is not as good or, the same as it used to be. Fortunately, I brought a couple of the old bottles before the original went out of production!
Hope this helps?
Martyn
GYD
Hi Alex,
Another good piece of restoration, well done and very nice to see. Is there much or, any visual difference between the MiG 15 and 17 throttle assemblies?
Martyn
GYD
Brilliant! Congratulations to everyone involved, certainly a reason to smile given the current climate?!!?
GYD
Hi Mark,
There are a couple available on ‘Spitfire Spares.com’ at the moment but, at rather eye watering prices! They do however, appear on that well known evil based auction site, especially on the US/Canada pages. The only problem then, is import charges and astronomical postage rates! How badly do you want one? !!!!
http://spitfirespares.co.uk/controls.html
GYD
Hi Howard,
Just received the tickets for the April ‘Table-Top’ however, given the current unusual (nay, hysterical), circumstances and Boris’s latest dic-tat of ‘Avoid all contact with other humans’, is NAM still planning to go ahead with the event?
Martyn
GYD
It is indeed Brize Norton, the same picture appears on page 24 in the ‘Airfied Focus’ special by Peter Davis, ‘The story of an Oxfordshire airfield’. This book states that the picture was taken in 1946. The long straight road on the left is Black Bourton road, this was cut off during the American’s extension of the main runway in the 1950’s!
GYD
Cheers Geoff, much appreciate the search, thanks.
Martyn
GYD
Hi TempestV,
No, unfortunately I don’t, are these readily available to view, i.e. on ‘t’net or, hard bound good old fashioned books?
Could be a very interesting lead to follow, many thanks,
Martyn
GYD
Hi Geoff,
Thank you for that information, I too happened across that picture of TW-P and I also have JDR Rawlings tomes, (both Fighter Squadrons and Bomber Squadrons), that was my first port of call and these are a ‘must have’ in any individual’s library!
I have also seen the two entries of the last links, it is always nice to see that an individual who gave their life for the future of others is rewarded with a road named after them.
However, as I said in an earlier post, I think with all the scant available information of the published ‘web based’ material that everyone has greatly identified, I’m hoping for a family member of an ex-serving BoB 141 squadron ‘Erk’ to perhaps come up trumps but, that does not detract from all the help every one on the thread has contributed so far, at least I now have the names of those in the picture (thanks Mothminor) and I look forward to receiving my copy of that book in due course. The hunt continues!
Many thanks guys,
Martyn
GYD
Hi cabbage,
Indeed, I think it was probably more important to note the individual serials of the aircraft lost, rather than squadron codes. However, the Squadron operational records (F-540), may list more detailed information dependant on the individual entering the records in the first instant. This has apparently been looked at down at Kew, by a fellow enthusiast I am working with on this ‘endevour’.
I am hoping that there are still perhaps, one or, two ex-141 squadron members or, at least surviving relatives that may have a few ‘dog eared’ black and white pictures of ‘What Grandad did in the war’.
Fingers crossed!
GYD
Indeed, I noticed the gas patch too, but with having no other details with the picture in SAM, I was unsure as to who the individuals were although, you can make out the single aircrew brevet on their tunics but, I wasn’t sure if it was before or, after the 19th July, that’s answered one question then!
GYD
Purely by chance and looking for something completely different, I came across a letter to the editor of ‘Scale Aircraft Modelling’ of June 2000, with a photograph of one of 141’s Defiant’s with several airman posing on the wing and against the fuselage coded TW-O but, the author unfortunately did not know the serial. He also lists a few other aircraft serial/code combinations but, sadly not the particular aircraft I seek! I will now trawl through my library of SAM to see if I can find the original letter that prompted this response.
GYD
Cheers Cabbage, I’ll try and seek that book out, I have one or, two of the series but, not that one!
GYD
Many thanks Mm, much appreciated.
Martyn
GYD
Hi Mothminor,
Thanks for the lead, I have just brought a copy of said book off good old ‘e(vil)-Bay!
The information I am particularly looking for, is related to a New Zealand pilot, P/O Kidson who, was sadly killed on the 19th July 1940 flying Defient L7015 (along with many other members of 141 sqn on that fateful day). I am trying to match a code letter to that particular aircraft and any other ‘nose art/names’ that may well have been applied.
Is there a 141 Squadron association?
GYD