Happy (retrospective) Birthday!!, Ja Worsley:)
Well, you heard it here first folks!!, PAK-FA to utilise ‘Barco’ cockpit displays…(definitely maybe):
http://www.barco.com/corporate/en/pressreleases/show.asp?index=1945
The F-22 was designed for air dominance/supremacy against it’s then (Soviet) 5th Gen. counterpart and late evolutions of Fulcrum/Flanker operated by not-so-friendly potential adversaries- in which function it succeeds- ’till at least 2020.
In fact, you could argue the F-22 murdered the MiG 1.44 on ‘the drawing board’ as not fit for purpose and facilitated a re-assesment of the PAK-FA tender in 2003, which, flex, is like the F-22- a military necessity, not an expensive luxury.
However, flex, Iraq/Afghanistan don’t render the Raptor redundant- just the wrong tool for the job. In fact, you could argue that it’s been a victim of its own success, but the ‘money’s no object’ bench-mark setting warplane can simply no longer justify its cost- LRIP simply raises unit costs and export orders (if Congress agrees) will require an ‘export version’ to be developed.
I’m also sceptical of certain future strike capabilities of the F-22, which would require a 2nd crew member for the workload- such as manned leader target hand-off to UCAVs, besides then why is the USAF ordering a brand-new manned intermediate stealth bomber?
As for US ground forces, a friend of mine (in the Gurkhas) has trained with them and claims they are lavishly equipped compared to the UK army- where radios don’t work, Land-Rover armour is a joke- oh, and at least USAF C-130s have flame-retardant foam in their wings- and the Britishers still don’t- Poor, very poor.
How is this apparent in the Su-35? I haven’t seen it’s two huge LCD MFDs activated.
The Su-34 cockpit pics I’ve seen are very old ones, from the prototype. I imagine the series production version is significantly improved, perhaps MiG-29SMT / MiG-29M2 or MiG-35, but at the very least, Su-27SM level.
Vympel, see post #208
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?t=77322&page=7
The production Su-34 cockpit has 5 large high res.full-colour AMLCD(?)displays of a type I’ve not seen on any Russian aircraft (maybe imported, Sextant?): 2 for pilot & 3 for WSO.
The quality is evident on recent video posted by ARA662- (http://rapidshare.com/files/83387896/Su-34.avi.html).
If I figure out how to take video stills & then convert them into jpg. I’ll post them up.
WOW!! Ja Worsley, did you get to meet Chuck Yeager?!! Is it true he has a shimmering halo? You lucky devil.
Passenger airline has that several tons of engines permanently hanging from them. Moreover they are designed for 60000 hr vs 6000hr for fighters.
Small AESA wont work. u need large space and power.
…I give up.
S-37 was built in different time. Now sukhoi is implementing composites for Pak-fa and civillian projects.
Composite wings for airliners and fighters are NOT the same thing- think of problems with the ‘Dreamliner’ and compare to the loads a fighter will endure- unless you’re gonna incorporate some elaborate carbon-nanotube strengthened structure- which is many years away.
What’s wrong with small AESAs? -they exist and they’re easier to cool.
Maybe India can sell Pakistan some ’33Mks- how’s that for detente!
(but don’t forget to move the gearbox) 🙂
EF/Rafale/Gripen are basically obsolete with no upside potential if u compared it to Flanker series especilly Su-35/Su-34. Su-35 is flying with 14.5 tons engine. 15.5 tons AL-FM-3 is on bench test. New engine upgrade every 18 months for Ruaf. I am not even going into 5+ engine. now there is all composite black wing they can install on Flankers but it will take funds from PAK-FA. It PESA radar exceeds future AESA for Euro.
None of the Eurocanards are anywhere near obsolete- EF with AMSAR AESA & later TVC(?) and will only lose their edge to the Su-35 when they shoe-horn an AESArray onto the ‘Irbis’- it’s not all about kW, you know!!
Whose is the AL-31FM-3, Salyut’s? bench tests already- are you sure?
I never heard of the all-composite wing either, considering the fatigue headaches encountered by the S-37’s wings- I’d doubt it very much.
My 2 Yen: (operational today)
#1 LM F-22 Raptor (Not Even The Same Planet!!)
#2 Su-30MKI/MKM
#3 EF Typhoon
#4 Boeing F-18E/F Super Hornet
#5 LM F-16E/F blk 60
the new Su-35 has a more advanced cockpit layout.
Yeah, but it won’t look the part ’till it gets OLEDs!! (c/o Sony Corp.).
I think the Su-34’s cockpit is Russia’s finest. it retains some analogue dials but the (5) LCDs appear to be of very high quality/resolution and do not suffer from the ‘backlight glare/blur’ synonomous with different viewing angles- apparent in the Su-35-1.
Don’t believe anything ‘Professor’ Carlo Kopp says, he makes Curveball look sane.
711 was a testbed for N011M BARS..
I have only seen one picture of 712. Anyone got some more to share?
I thought this was 711’s radar (Zhuk?)
Some utterly insane Austrian guy has meticulously documented the entire ‘Flanker’ programme- pity I don’t speak German!! but definitely worth a look:
Su-30MKI with Litening 3 targetting pod:
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The IN should demand ZhukAE at no extra charge.
Looks cool though, 15% composites too, not bad for Fulcrum swan song.
So what will Russias main multirole deep strike aircraft be 5 years from now?? Su-30 maybe?, in my honest opinion they should incept MiG-35.
Also what will be providing CAS?, surely Su-25 is way out of date by now.
Hehehehehehehe!!!:cool:
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…which ones are actually going into production to be the future backbone of the RuAF?
Imho Su-27SM2 (aka Su-35BM) new build (already ordered);
Su-27SM ongoing upgrade programme;
MiG-31BM already ordered (?) upgrade of existing airframes;
MiG-29SMT upgrade- no idea, some say upgrade cancelled & all RuAF Fulcrums to be phased out.
MiG-35 for IAF MMRCA tender only (of which next to zero chance of success)
Su-34 LRP
Su-24M ongoing upgrade
Yak-130 already ordered, LRP.
Tu-160 ongoing MLU, & production resumed perhaps 1 per year.
Please correct any errors.