Update
Just to give a very small update.
All the frames for the rear fuselage have been completed, with a few requiring minor repairs. We’ve managed to use all the original frames with the exception of the forward lower frame which was crushed.
We’re looking for suppliers of stringer material as some need replacing due to corrosion. The tailplane and fin attach brackets NDT came back fine and they’re in the process of being fitted. Next phase is replacing the U/S stringers and then skinning.
Photos to follow soon.
G
Which???
Will gladly spill the beans when she’s in the hangar in a couple of weeks or so. Before then I’d be shot, sectioned, and boiled in marmalade.
G
Parts
Thanks Firebex, list still broadly as above.
G
Vampire Parts
We’ve been able to cross a few items off the “wanted” list with the acquisition of suitable wheel door and flap (will check which side, as we’ll need the opposite).
Details of any other parts which may be available would be very welcome. There must still be a large quantity of Vampire parts out there – anyone have any ideas.
I’m now kicking myself for our getting rid of the stuff we had a number of years ago – we had most of what we now need, all new and unused. DOH!
All ideas very welcome!
Thanks,
G
Preservation as is?
While it would be great to be able to preserve as is, it’s seldom that simple, but then what is?
The only way to ensure that the aeroplane does not rot from within is to completely strip, remove all signs of corrosion, treat and re-assemble. Within the structural joints and between the skin and structure I can almost guarantee that substantial areas of corrosion will be present, and if left un-checked will ultimately cause far more damage than any professionally conducted restoration.
We’ve stripped a number of structures for restoration, many of which were new old stock (unused) items which had been stored inside all of their life. That did not prevent the majority of these items from having corrosion issues to one degree or the other. Not an issue if you strip and treat, but blindly ignore and blunder on regardless and you’re storing up a much bigger problem down the line.
Now, add years of submersion into the mix allowing water and sediment between the joints, not to mention the effect water (even fresh water) will have on accelerating the effects of dissimilar metal corrosion wherever a steel structural part, bolt or screw comes into contact with un-protected aluminium.
It’s a lovely utopian notion that these old birds can be left as they are for years to come, but in most cases that will only ensure their ultimate destruction from within. But I guess that depends upon your definition of long term preservation.
G
G.46
Would love to get our hands on that G.46 for restoration along with the ex. Southend example we have. We are fortunate in having wing and fuselage jigs and a lot of tooling blocks etc, so it wouldn’t be a major undertaking.
G
Single Seat Parts
It looks like we’ll be taking over the care of a long neglected single seat Vampire.
We’re starting to get an idea of what we need to get her back into shape, and the list is long. However, hopefully, being Vampire, the parts should be kicking around somewhere, so here goes:
Tailplane & elevator
Rudders (early style)
Main undercarriage, wheels, tyres and brakes
Nosewheel tube and tyre
Single seat canopy
Central instrument panel
Engine cowlings
Goblin engine & jet pipe
Undercarriage & wheel doors
Flaps & speed brakes
Ailerons
Full set of control cables
Any and all hydraulic parts, lines etc
These are the main needs at the moment, but I’d be more than pleased to hear of any other parts that may be available.
Many thanks,
G
White Knight
I believe White Knight (G-WGHB) spent some time at Southend as well.
G
Fiat
Out of interest, does anyone happen to know how come the Fiat happened to be at Southend? It would be great to hear about her acquisition and (initial) importation to the UK.
Thanks,
G
Photos
Wonderful photos, and great to see her at Southend.
They’re a superb machine, those who have flown them speak very highly of the type. They’re a nightmare to find parts for, however, and that doesn’t make things easy.
As ever, if anyone knows of any available parts………
G
Nord
Sorry to say that there isn’t actually that much that will swap over between the Nord and a 109. It is true to say that the structural design of the rear fuselage is the same, i.e. integral frames and skin, however the geometry is entirely different. The stringer material is, however the same profile, although I couldn’t confirm the same gauge or material spec.
There are a few minor parts which are common to both – some small parts in the aileron control system for example, but the undercarriage and structural parts of the wings are different.
The 208 and the 109 (as does the 108) do share a large number of common features and techniques, but not parts.
We had a look at a nice example last year with an eye to adding it to the collection, but with the Fiat requiring so much work and various other things going on it was decided to give it a miss.
This is not the former Biggin Hill/Peter Smith aeroplane.
George
And something else…….
If anyone in East Anglia (or elsewhere) would like to get involved in the G.46 rebuild, or in looking after the PT-19 please drop me a PM. There’s a wide range of tasks, from paint stripping (actually, quite an art to that task to do it properly!) through to sheet metalwork.
Thanks,
George
Malcolm Hood
On the subject of Malcolm hoods, if anyone knows of one which may be available please let me know.
Thanks,
G
Missed opportunity……
With the tooling and knowledge in the repair and fabrication of geodetic structures within the Brooklands organisation following their rebuild of the Loch Ness Wellington, surely combining the remains of L7775 with the very substantial “spare” fuselage section at Brooklands to produce a third complete example would have been the best option. I know, a very simplistic view. Who knows, perhaps one day it will happen.
G
Storage
We can offer covered, secure hangarage for aircraft, or sections thereof, in Norfolk. We can accommodate aircraft up to the size of a twin Beech being flown in, and roaded in, well, there’s no size limit. If we can help, drop me a PM.
G