not something my Grandad mentions in his memoirs. He talks of the useless dorsal gun though!
That one shouldn’t be too difficult! Needs to be strong though….
Agreed Mark12…….leaving her in that regime just goes to cement my feelings that getting rid of her is a big mistake. She looks as wonderful as she did when my grandad took me to Duxford (when I was a kid) and I saw her and immediately made a kit of a Ju52. My grandad could have told me it was French or whatever, may be he did….did I care? Not one jot……it was cool Luftwaffe aircraft that my imagination filled in the noises, smells and sounds of paratrooper about to jump out of.
If its Hurricane….good luck!!!! (Good luck anyway). Sand would be best as may stop it crimping/collasping. Some Hurri tubes can be brittle, some soft…..just take your time….and watch your thumbs!!
Another sad accident. I went to Reno in 2006 and enjoyed a trip in a Stang.
I remember seeing Jimmy and his helpers polishing Cloud-dancer.
The spirit at that one event was/is like no other – lots of aviation petrol heads/race fans all having fun.
This is certainly one report that the racing community can learn a lot from. Flutter and/or control buzz has always been a scary phenomena and still (like several other aerodynamic phenomena) not that well understood. I have been digging a Mustang for several years that lost a wing which I think was a ‘flutter’ loss. The Mustang has a big ammo/gun bay cover on the upper surfaces of the wings. They used to come open in flight so, a speed limitation was set, whilst a modification to ‘fix’ the fasteners was pursued. The dig Mustang’s door likely came open/closed/repeat cycle putting a cyclic driving force into the wing exciting the natural resonant frequency.
FRCs are actually and have been for years – written by Handling Squadron at Boscombe Down. They have always been reviewed etc by all sorts not just pilots but also engineers and subject matter experts. By the time FRCs are at 2nd, 3rd or so on Issue states, they are pretty good.
I have a set of Lightning FRCs but not near me.
Incidentally, at the Boscombe Down Museum, we have a Lightning ejection seat that failed to make it thru a closed canopy during a test.
(Yes I know I said I would walk away, but if I can add something or correct something, as an aviation professional, I will do so!)
thankfully?! For who?! I will walk away……thread has run its course
This thread covers an event that was tragic on many dimensions. I think, personally, it has run its course and is getting pointless.
The facts are there; we lost a great pilot, his family are living with that tragic fact every day, we lost an exciting operation (face it, how many of us said if we won the lottery we would get down there and fly in a Lightning?),TC is no more and the aviation world will (should) learn from the comprehensive report.
20:20 hindsight is pointless. Keep calm…move on.
Thanx old chap! Hope to do more Duxford shows
I dont agree with your last sentence at all. Airshows, particularly in the UK, have spectators in mind. I have often heard spectators whinging aircraft not close enough….there is a reason.
There is a big rule in aviation…..don’t assume…check….not saying it featured in this case. The checking of the pilot’s display auth was a hole in the cheese, maybe, but not really a factor in the sad outcome of this tragic event
It’s the cheese model where all the holes align to make an accident….sad reading. Lots of lessons.
All ejection seats have an envelope….just like an aircraft. Zero zero seats will not always save you (i.e. if you are in a rapid dive). If it designed for ejection seats, best to have them working.
These types of reports should be warts and all so that all the lessons can be learned, if there is the will.
I’m pretty sure them Chinnys at Boscombe have been in service awhile now.
I may be wrong however.
You are correct. Chinooks are the most useful asset in the forces
that is a bit unfair Brian!
cheers Alan