good stuff!
it is a case of what you want and what you want to spend your money on. I for one want to produce something that looks, feels and is right/accurate using as many original parts as possible…..it will be as original/if not more so than a flyer!! It will also allow us to show people exactly what the pilots had to fly, fight and sadly sometimes die in. Flyers are fantastic but in the interests of safety etc are not that ‘stock’ inside…..it is great to see the faces of kids of all ages light up when they are granted access to a cockpit
Hi Tony,nice breakdown… 😀 Querie why is the datum longerons dearer than the bottom ones as the forward sections have to be hand made and the back section is over 11 foot long.How did you go with the curved hatsections for F6,7 and 9?Any recent pics?:diablo:
Do you take beer over cash??:D
It was scary doing a breakdown…..costs can be reduced greatly with swaps, luck and a whole pile of DIY. It is amazing what you can ‘get away with’ on a static…but you know that already!!;)
The forward lower longerons can be fabricated easily using semi ally sheet and formers, the datums require a big folder and luck…for recent pix need to wait til mid june!!
This is an interesting question…….first we need to make some assumptions:-
1. You’ve got a reasonable amount of money
2. You want it to look and feel real…i.e. make it like a real one would have
3. It has to look like it works
4. You will try and source original parts for some assemblies
5. You will do assembly
6. non airworthy metal
7. assumes you have and get wheels, legs etc
So here is the gold plated example:-
a. Frame 5 (outwardly original looking), original carry thrus spars Total cost £1000
b. Frame 6, 7, 9, 10, 12, 13 thru to 19 £1500
c. Frame 8 kit £1500
d. Frame 11 kit £1800
e. Top Longerons £800
f. Bottom longerons £400
g. make your own intercostals £80
h. Small top hats £200
i. Empty static Merlin £5000
j. Stubs £600
k. Instrument panel + pucker instruments etc £2000
l. Static column £2000, other flying trims, controls etc…£2000
m. static u/c selector £1500
n. Throttle box £1000
o. Undercarriage legs and wheels £2000
p. tail feathers a kit of parts you assemble £2000
q. windscreen unit £1200
r. seat £1000
s. cowlings £3000 (cheaper if you can use an English wheel
t. Rivets and fasteners £300
bored now!!! so this comes to £30.8k and still need wings…….
I would suggest a pair of GRP wings with proper control surfaces….so call that £35k…..add your time and Bob’s your Uncle!
Ways to reduced cost and time….use pop rivets!
Replica instruments, replica column, replica U/c selector, replica castings of other cockpit controls…..grp seat, metal seat,
reduce cost further (whilst it still looks like a proper Spit) by replacing frames 6,7,12,13-19 with wood items…..make Frame 5 out of wood….etc…
I suppose what I am saying, is what do you want the final item to be like? Faithful or a large Airfix kit…..to do it properly is a money pit!
Good luck there Bubbles! Strangely attractive indeed!!!
Anyhoo…..i would like to see 558 keep flying…..it is fantastic that such things like the Scramble did so well….hats off to them…it is a pity all the hot air on this forum cannot be harnessed to help 558 keep flying…..! :o))))
good stuff well done!
cheers all, got the pms, rather a lot of them……the problem is i have to wait 240secs between sending pms which is boring! I will get details together and then send pms out….will take 2 or 3 days
Are the seats complete, or just the bare frames? Do they have free from explosives certificates? Are they available for free or for purchase? Where would they need to be picked up from?
varying completion, they will at least have baros, drogue guns etc….some may have straps etc, they will not be free as the place needs to have some benefit!
They will be FFE (may not have main guns anyway). The baros will have been set off, they will not have FFEs but will OBVIOUSLY be safe. Pick up from near Andover Hampshire
No T7 sorry
very amusing boly me old!!!!
I believe in credit where credit is due……U571 was a travesty, Pearl Harbour rewrote BoB history…tis apity.
Back to thread, the BoB has alot of howlers in one scene sadly (Mr Anthony and Rob Shaw coming out of skippers house – mentioned here lots of time before).
The original poster mentioned poor uniform research etc, that is simple to answer…..they have to make at least one mistake when it come to uniforms etc….they are not allowed to be accurate….a bit like the need to be inaccurate over Kings/Queens regs where the person comes in and salutes the officer who is hatless…….
A Fugly Mk1???!!!!
I think it would be nice to keep the network going and base it around cockpitfest. It will be the 10th cockpitfest this year and should be as ever a good un.
The main things we originally wanted in a club was a pooling of advice, finder service/wants/disposals, maybe even a buying group (for dealing with MAS etc)…as with most enthusiasts, the idea of an aim gives a good goal to aim at…..i.e. going to cockpitfest with your pride and joy and chatting to the guys there….
I am still happy to chip in for the site, but obviously that is not the whole thing as Mak has put in hours and hours to make the site what it is/was.
That is a pity Mark, but I must express my thanx to you for keeping the site and club ging so long….thanx old chap….I am hoping to do a booklet for the 10th CF event so could do with some shots
very very sad……RIP