Its a Jagdpanther! Meaning ‘Hunting Panther’ – a tank destroyer based on the Panther chassis.
Referring to what?
The fact that the OP believes the Stuka to be a replica rather than CGI (which it is) evidenced by this part of the original post:
This Stuka looks to me very much like an actual replica rather than CGI, and as such I have questions about it.
Interestingly, a local stopped by and read the name. Straight away, he knew that he was “…the pilot of the P40 in the desert”.
At least he isn’t forgotten.
Andy – that is rather wonderful I must say.
A VVS scheme is being planned – but for the Spitfire IX….
Photos now added!
Westland built aircraft
Edgar – re AR213 – Westland were well known to adore Grey Green (or at least some variation of it) and must have stocked huge amounts of it as they painted everything that was not bolted down with it. I have seen the insides of Westland built Seafire XV outer wing sections – all that colour…. this practise was certainly in contrast to that of CBAF.
Definately not grey then! Seafires certainly black, particularly the late variants.
Part of the problem here is we are talking about three Spitfire production eras, early (mk. 1s both pre-war and early war), then the main wartime production (where my physical evidence is derived from) and the subject of the thread, the late production Mk.22/24. I don’t think there is likely to be a definitive answer but I am certainly going to take another look at the CBAF Spitfire IX airframe and compare to colour chips. One of the things I am certain of – and Edgar may be surprised at this – is that the inside faces of the fuselage skins were never painted but the frames and intercostals were painted silver. The wheel bays on this airframe (PT879 by the way) were also silver as far as I can determine.
Hi Edgar, Thanks for the response – presume you mean PK624 with TFC? That aircraft, being a gate guardian, has been re-painted a number of times since manuafacture so its possible the green was not original…. but of course it may have been!
I wonder if any period photos clearly show green wheel wells? Where is M12 when you need him? Under canvas….
Any idea where the notion of the ‘paler green used on Spitfires’ comes from – this is something discussed in modelling circles presumably? Thanks again.
Interesting subject – Edgar, have you seen much evidence of the use of Grey Green for gear wells on the Mk.22? Its not a variant I have looked in to in much detail. I do have access to an unrestored Mk.IX airframe and that has some interesting colouration aspects to it which may be of interest.
I am also curious about the suggested paler green used in Spitfires (not referring to the early bright green that seems to have been used by Supermarine on very early pre-war production examples)? The Mk.IX (castle Bromwich built) I refer to above clearly has a Grey Green painted cockpit.
Postscript…one thing is curious about the parachute, though. In all the photographs I have seen, all that is visible are shards of the canopy and shroud lines. I have seen no evidence of the heavy webbing straps, the full harness, back-pad and seat pack…or of the metal bucles, D-ring or release box. Odd that they were not immediately obvious.
I would suggest that the owner very likely had a knife and decided to cut off and discard the heavy harness, etc once he decided to carry the ‘chute with him in – order to save weight. Thats pure speculation of course…
This article, published recently, says “this month” which has few days left:-
Thats a newspaper article! Pay no attention.
It is supposed to be the end of October
Speculation! I don’t think any particular date has been confirmed – and certainly not as soon as that!
It certainly would! But I think it would take me about five years to apply all those markings!
(with the flaps “set” for take-off)
Spitfires only have two flap positions – ‘up’ and ‘down’ – hence my reference to the innovative wooden wedge mod. The idea being the flaps would be deployed following take off and the wedges would drop out….