Very nice photo Dave – note the particularly hard edged camouflage lines too….
Did the Spitfire sport mid-wing roundels? I’ve never seen it reproduced on repro colour schemes.
Not in the RAF – that footage is generally considered to have been staged by the oppositions ‘Ministry of Propoganda’ with a captured Spitfire – the give-away being the roundels as you point out. Presumably the original roundels were so convincingly blanked out when it was first obtained they could not figure out where to re-apply them for the ‘shoot down’ filming!
The best match I have found stated is FS 17178. However I have not personally tried it.
Royal Air Force Museum.
Also, was it painted on with a gas sensitive paint or was it some form of applied/doped on material? I am assuming the red border where it is taped on, if its fabric? And what colour was it supposed to change to in the event of?
Hi Andy – Roobarb did research on these panels when the BBMF Hurri LF 363 was re-painted. There were two ways of applying the panels – basically as you say above, either with gas sensitive paint direct to to the wing surface or as doped on fabric panel which had been previously painted with gas sensitive paint. The latter method would have a thin strip of red doped fabric tape securing it to the wing which is I think the effect as applied on P’74. According to Roobarb’s research the panels seemd to be generally diamond shaped and 18″ to 24″ square on Spitfires, but was ‘square on’ when applied on Hurricanes. We may see a one or two more of these in the near future!
Apparantly the paint ‘darkened’ when it detected gas but was originally a yellowy green colour.
presumably the same paint on MVs as on aircraft
I think so – it had a wide variety of applications and would even be seen simply applied to sign-like panels on airfields and other key installations.
The PR.XI had provision for an emergency desert supplies box in each wing – the bungee was possibly to retain items in that.
What’s wrong with the insignia, Chad?
Norseman looks lovely!:) Must admit I’m struggling to see what is wrong with the national markings aswel.
Is the Tracker a potential flyer or a museum exhibit?
What Chad refers to is the curved edge between the star and the bars – it it should meet with the points of the star rather than follow the outer edge of the circle. Its not an unusual mistake and its still a beautiful restoration of an unusual type.
I think “Unique Survivor” refers to the fact that 965 is the only spit flying with her original sevice engine from 44/45
It refers to the fact that it is the only airworthy Spitfire PR.XI!
It would help if you state what aircraft type and period!
You mean ailerons?
Mark V
Do you have access to “Gifts of War”?
I certainly do – its one of the best sources for shots of the small stencils, I will take another look tonight.
Skirting over Paul McMillan’s helpful reply :rolleyes: might I turn to the more erudite Mark V?
Your welcome Andy – there are a few circular panels usually marked ‘ELECT CONN’ on the wings, its also often stencilled on the second from forward wing root fairing (both sides). Sometimes I have seen it marked simply as ELECTRICAL but it seems to be a generic indication of anything concealing an electrical terminal or similar device, if indeed the one you are looking at is thus marked.
I have one photo that looks as if it reads: ELECT CHAN
It reads ‘ELECT CONN’ (Electrical connection). There were quite a few of them on Spitfires, both Mk.1’s and later aircraft.
If they were available, could some of the extict or rarer mark’s be rebuilt? Mk VI, VII, or X for example?
Definately.
Would this have classed as a dataplate restoration?
MH
Definately not!
I contacted her via facebook a few weeks ago…
Could you let her know about the new additions to this thread – if she is not already aware of them please?