Hi,
I’m involved in the restoration to flight of Spitfire Mk. XIV NH749. We are looking for a repair/overhaul manual (AP2234). We’d also like to get our grubby little mitts on a parts manual. Can any one help?
Will do! I wil send you an e-mail. Best, Steve
Is this the one we were allowed to peek at ? at Little Gransden airshow ??
Keith.
Yes.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for updating us on this wonderful project 🙂
If she looked like that recently, how on earth did she end up on 3 continents simultaneously?
The hangar collapse that people are talking about was in 1988 after the aircraft was bought by Charles Church. He had her placed with BAE at Woodford for major works including spar replacement when a hangar roof (that was being maintained) collapsed on to the Lanc causing substantial damage. Sadly a construction worker was killed in the accident. The Lanc never moved forward after that due to litigation and the unfortunate death of Mr Church the following year. The various major components then seem to have passed through several owners before ending up in different parts of the world as out-lined above. It is very sad to look at the photo above and think about what could have been.
. And what about the electrical installation, do the regulations of these days allow NX611 to fly with it? Same story with the instruments and hydraulic systems.
Best regards,
Mathieu.
All systems would require inspection, testing and overhaul (replacement in some cases). What I was trying to say was that I am very doubtful that the restored aircraft that would emerge would be the “substantially new and different” NX611 you fear.
Kermit Weeks had a huge number for sale last year or so
He did – but I think most were P-38 engines (a lot of them the opposite tractor).
So much of the original airframe will have to be thrown away if NX611 is to be returned to the air under the CAA that it would be a substantially new & different NX611 after rebuild.
I would be very doubtful of that in the case of NX611. An aircraft flying until the late 60’s, hangared and taxiiable would not normally subject to such wholesale material replacement/alteration.
After watching Grumpy for many years at the Airshows here ,why did it have to go to the USA ?
Possibly largely to do with the fact that the new purchaser lives in the USA.
You are correct you don’t have to. I just asked in my post whether they could if they wanted to build up some hours on the engines to test them whilst keeping an airframe alive.It would also allow any work that MAY need doing to her engines to be done,it was a hypothetical question.
If you have flight restored engines and you intend to fly that aircraft in the UK you are required (mandatory CAA requirement) to undergo a ground testing scenario where the engines are, over a number of hours, gradually operated at increasing power settings. For Merlins its normally around five hours on the ground and yes, if there were any adjustments needed you would deal with that and then fly. What you would be less likely to do is to install expensive flight ready engines in an aircraft intended solely for ground running/taxiing ‘just to test them’ as it would be a very expensive excercise to do that.
Of course ‘they could if they wanted to’ – in the same way they can do anything they want to their own property but perhaps its more sensible to discuss what might possibly happen in reality or be prudent practice?
This isn’t any old Lancaster,it is a living breathing Lancaster .It would be a way of getting the engines running and tuned,keeping the aircraft “live” and systems pumped up and maintained and also able to do taxi runs when needed,a win win situation.
Run in engines and a working living wonderful airframe,just an idea 🙂
Still not with you – you dont need to install flight ready overhauled engines to replace runnable (but not flight certified) engines to taxi the aircraft, keep systems going etc. The existing engines will do that, all you would achieve is increasing your operating costs by eating in to the life of expensivley overhauled engines by using them to ground run/taxi.
Just out of interest could they use an airframe such as Just Jane for example as a test bed for the engines ,putting some hours on them and monitoring the systems and pressures in both the airframe and engines.
This would save Janes engines from wear and tear as well .
Not sure why anyone would want to do that in a Lancaster – if you want an engine test rig you would make one such as that used by Retro. Eye-Tech’s engines get installed and run on the ground for five hours in the aircraft they are intended for. Then you go fly.
Already under discussion:
Interesting. So, is that 4 new Merlins as opposed to 4 refurbished ones I wonder?
New as in ‘overhauled’, 4-engined bomber, NX611.
So can someone confirm that it IS being “put to bed for the winter?”
From the ‘North Weald Hurricane Event’ thread:
Both on winter servicing since the end of September
No further debate is necessary,
C 6
Not sure that will stop it though.