whats the thing thats open on shot 2 and 7?
There are two things open – in shot 2 its the radio/ballast access door and in shot 7 its the old accumulater access door that is open.
Once someone of very small proportions has climbed inside the fuselage, what do they do in there?
Undo the 52 bolts while hoping some other people on the outside are holding the tail assembley.
I disagree. Many museum aircraft have been restored to an airworthy condition, even though there were never any plans to fly them. They are there for (IMHO) ‘virtually airworthy’. When only a piece of paper stands in the way of an aircraft being able to fly, then I would agree with Creaking Door and say that the aircraft is “Virtually Airworthy”.
Whatever you say, but in my experience its the ‘piece of paper’ or rather obtaining it that can be the biggest challenge in restoring aircraft. I do understand what you are saying though. I think the suggestion is that an aircraft can be restored or preseved in a functional state, it can, but the reality is that the unless all aspects of its systems are regularly exercised, ideally in flight and there is paperwork, permits etc to allow that to happen the aircraft cannot be considered ‘ airworthy’. If you want to adopt a term ‘virtually airworthy’ to cover this functional state than fair enough but its not something that is widely recognised.
Isn’t the Stuka at Hendon virtually ‘airworthy’ – complete and with a ‘run-able’ engine?
No aircraft can be considered ‘virtually’ airworthy. It either is or is not. This machine is certainly very complete and was considered for flight for the BoB film in 1968, but that was thirty-nine years ago!
What is the state of the airframe corrosion-wise (has it spent much time outside) considering how strongly-built it must be?
It would need a full in-depth survey to reveal that information.
How much of a rebuild would be required for a limited flying career?
Anything less than a full and comprehensive re-build would be very unlikely considering the age of the aircraft.
Not really seriously considering this viable given limited funding and other priorities but what do others think given the ‘value’ of it as a rare intact example?
As one of the rarest aircraft in the RAF Museum collection any suggestion to fly it (even with funding in hand) would not get very far I am afraid.
Whilst searching the web the other yesterday, I came across the original Airworthiness Approval Note (AAN) for PL344:
Strange that its dated 15 September 2000 but with Mr R E Melton as applicant :confused:
Very nice Roobarb JR & Co… it certainly looks better than it did before you started.
It does – having the Medium Sea Grey on the bottom and the Ocean Grey on the top helps too 😉
BTW: Are they required to show their correct serial in the UK or can that be fictitious too?
No – the serial can relate to the scheme portrayed – not the airframe, although some owners (inc BBMF) prefer to retain the correct airframe serial. If the G-reg is not to be displayed consent from the CAA is required.
She looks great in those dessert markings!
Pudding!
How did u manage to get so close to the runway Yakk 11..
Its a private strip!
I think the rectification work was quite deeply embedded and a bit more radical than that.
Mark, which work are you talking about? If you are referring to what has gone on here this year then I did say that I did not know exactly what had gone on but was guessing it was not much more than an annual, inspection IRAN,strip and re-paint. It really has not been here long enough for it to be substantially more than that although Roobarb will no doubt be along to clarrify 🙂
Expect to see it return to the USA very soon as this is T.Blairs baby.
The other two Spitfires he owns have stayed here for some time – should PL344 be different?
Anyone know the up to date count of airworthy Hurricanes?
Here is my list (in no particular order):
LF363 – BBMF, RAF Coningsby, UK.
PZ865 – BBMF, RAF Coningsby, UK.
G-BKTH – Sea Hurricane – Shuttleworth Collection, Old Warden, UK.
KZ321 – Michael Potter, Canada.
G-HURI – HAC, Duxford UK.
RCAF 5667 – Fighter Factory, Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA.
AE977 – Tom Friedkin, Chino Ca, USA.
P3351 – Alpine Fighter Collection, Wanaka, NZ.
Former Mk XII G-ORGI, Ed Russell, Niagra, Canada.
G-HUPW, R4118 – Mk 1 – Peter Vacher, Didcot ,UK.
G-KAMM – Flying Heritage Collection, Seattle, USA.
NX96RW – Lone Star Flight Museum, Texas , USA.
This Spit was first rebuilt by Dick Melton, then reworked by PPS, and now fixed by ARCO. And all of this in just over 15 years. Did someone not do their job right… :confused:
T J
When this aircraft was first re-built by DMA between 1988 and 91it was said to be one of the best flying Spitfires, very quick and a delight to fly. Both Reg Hallam, Dave Southwood and Tony Bianchi agreed that. However it was not, shall we say, a completely ‘stock’ aircraft and the new owner, Kermit Weeks, had a lot of work carried out at Booker to make it more authentic in terms of equipment and detail, in the mid 90’s. Further work was undertaken at Bartow in Florida when it was USA based. I am not party to what was undertaken at Duxford this year but I suspect it was (apart from the paint strip and re-finish) a thorough inspection/annual/IRAN.
So I would say all this is more to do with the changing tastes and requirements of subsequent owners rather than “someone not doing their job right”.
The best part is its now UK based and also the first Charles Church aircraft to be authentically finished – so well done to all at Arco!
Just when you thought all the warbirds had been tucked away for the winter….
There is always at least one servicable H11 aircraft available throughout the winter season 🙂
Never realised there was a jump seat in PT’s P40 before now.
Its always been there – we just like to keep it covered up 😉
Great shots there I knever knew PT P-40 was a two Seater guess thats the Engineer :rolleyes:
He is a valuable member of our ground support team who has done a fantastic job helping to keep the aircraft airworthy and sparkling clean all year.
There you go then, I guess i was fed some false info (
Well it does show up the gap between what an individual or company might suggest as a price-tag and what, in reality the item does sell for. I agree its still a lot of money at $2,000,000 but rather good value for it, at least in my opinion.
Looks like the new owner is Tom Duffy and 959 will be staying in the US!