It’s definately an HT-2,try the link below for more pics and info…
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Images/Classic/Trainers.html
The Dove should have a big perspex bubble over the top of the canopy,it certainly does look a bit odd without it!It may be a preservation mod to shade the interior a bit from the savage heat and sunlight in that part of the world.
Interesting pics Neil,thanks for all of them. 🙂
“9th AF Mustang Ace, Bruce Carr went out in a 51 and came home in a 190.
Dan
http://www.afa.org/magazine/valor/0295valor.asp“
That’s the guy Dan,thanks for the link.It seems I remembered the article pretty much as it was-it’s good to know my grey matter isn’t entirely shot! 🙂
Franz von Werra did indeed get his hands on a Hurricane at Hucknall and it just happenned to be one of the new Mk.II’s (perhaps even the very first,I can’t remember.) He was posing as ‘Captain Wilhelm Van Lott’,a former KLM pilot who had been posted to the ATA and had been given instructions to test fly the aircraft.(He had been driven to Hucknell after walking to a remote railway station not too far from the prison camp he’d escaped from,saying he’d just crash-landed in a Wellington in nearby fields and needed to be taken to the nearest RAF station.)
Hucknall was a dual civvy/military airfield,with the RAF on one side of the station and Rolls Royce on the other.He was very lucky to have walked into the R-R part of the field as there were many Poles and Czeks under training over on the RAF side,and who knows what they’d have done to him if they’d rumbled him!
It’s also extremely fortunate that he only saw the Hurricane as there was a Kestrel-engined He70 at Hucknall which had been used for a number of years as an engine test-bed by RR.If he’d found that,he may well have been able to fly it without having to ‘fraternise’ with the ground staff beforehand,which was what lead to him being rumbled before he could get away in the Hurri (he’d needed instruction from one of the ground staff on the navigational instruments and had also had to ask for help with a trolley-acc,all of which delayed him long enough for him to be caught.)
On the allied side,I remember reading about an American Mustang pilot who came down behind German lines and spent several days on the run.He eventually came across a Luftwaffe airfield one evening,where he saw ground crewmen fuelling up an FW190.He waited until dawn and then snuck out to the aircraft,pushing likely looking buttons and hoping for the best.Amazingly the engine fired and he took off from the taxi-way. It took him ages to get the gear retracted and when it finally did he didn’t know how he’d done it.He flew over the allied lines and found an airfield,the defences of which promptly opened up on him.He circled the field under fire for some time,trying to work out how to get the gear down again,but eventually he had to give up and belly land before he was shot down by his own side!He walked away from the landing,but the machine was a write off.
This story was recounted by the pilot at the first Mustangs and Legends show back sometime in late 90’s (97?),and was published in Flypast shortly afterwards.Could someone dig out the name of the guy and more details of the event?
My UK-vote goes to the RAFM’s AEW.2 which is on loan to the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester. She’s absolutely immaculate and looks as though she was retired yesterday.I’ll stick my neck out and say she’s probably in better nick than any of the other surviving Mk.2’s (even the flier).
My overall vote goes to 1722 in SA,although who can say what the future holds for her.
More excellent pics Kev,thanks-I like the Voodoo one particularly.:cool:
David Burke wrote:
“The Boulton Paul seriously needs to go indoors – she has to be possibly one of the most significant aircraft preserved outside in the U.K. “
Couldn’t agree more David,although I seem to remember there was some talk of her nose leg being a bit suspect so she couldn’t be towed anywhere at the moment.I’m guessing that dismantling her would be a major task.
Someone raised the point about the slightly open canopy-is this a good or a bad thing?I’ve seen slightly open canopies on a number of other outdoor aircraft in various places,my guess is that it’s done to air the cockpit and prevent it from becoming ‘sweaty’.
“Nice shots there.
Vulcan is looking very nice.
If there is any more to come i would be interested to see them.
Cheers Kev.”
Seconded. 🙂
Btw,what’s that thing with the downturned wingtips under the nose of the Vulcan??
Not much in the way of aviation related stuff for me,my rellies seem to think I’ve got everything there is already,which is probably largely true! I did get some war film DVD’s though-Dambusters,Great Escape (with stacks of extras),Too Late the Hero and Cross of Iron. Should keep me entertained for a while. 🙂
Good luck with that Hurricane Lancman-it’s a good job they don’t do a Lanc in the same scale to go with it or you’d have to move out to make space for it! 😀
Merry Christams and a Happy New Year to all…
Nice pics Geoff,thanks for those.Shame she doesn’t look like that anymore…:(
“I’d be too chicken…. “
Don’t say that Daz-scratch around for a bit and you’d soon pluck up the courage…
Much obliged Geoff,thanks for that. 🙂
Merry Christmas to everyone on the boards and let’s raise a glass or two for those in the vintage aviation world who have left or been taken from us this year,and especially thier families and friends at this difficult time of year.I know from personal experience how hard the first Christmas,birthday etc can be after the loss of a loved one (my sister died suddenly one December morning 10 years ago and so this time of year often feels bitter-sweet for us.)
Here’s to a happy and most of all safe 2004.
The Spit in first pic is ‘434,you can tell by the rounded rudder.She was painted in this high-altitude scheme sometime in the late 80’s,before TE184 was flying.
Incidentally,MH434 was used in an episode of Poirot at about this time,and there are some good low level flying sequences.The basic storyline was that the designs for a new type of fighter (the ‘Mayfield Kestrel’) had been nicked from the designer’s home and blah blah blah.Worth watching if only for the Spitfire bits. 😀
Merry Christams and a Happy New Year to all!
Even MORE interesting pics from Guam have just been posted up on A.net,this time including B17s,P51’s and a P61 Black Widow.:eek:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?placesearch=North%20Field&distinct_entry=true
Thanks Knight,that does ring bells now that you mention it.Don’t suppose anyone has any piccies…? 😉
Am I right in thinking Dave Gilmour’s Mustang flew in a 19Sqn scheme for a time in the late 80’s or early 90’s??