Thanks for those Yak 🙂
Hi Andrew,
As far as I know,they were talking about a first flight in late 2003,or possibly early 2004 depending on how things go, so I’d very much doubt that she’d be on display at Legends this year.
I’ll second that Kab,thanks for those 🙂 What model of Canberra is that? The single seat bomber/interdicter versions are now seriously rare,so it’s good to see this one.
Do you have any idea what’s happenned to the Mk.8 Spitfire which used to be flown by the IAF on special occasions?I haven’t heard of it flying for quite a while now,has it been grounded for good?
Some of Janie herself wouldn’t go amiss Yak. 🙂
Thanks for the feedback Merlin.It certainly sounds as though she is in a worse state than previously thought,however I’ve still emailed them to find out the true extent of her condition and what thier future plans are.
The email address I gave for the curator is a National Museums of Scotland address,so it would perhaps still be worthwhile to email that address to make your feelings known.
Here’s a piccy of the Lyneham gate guard taken in October ’98. For anyone interested in the comet,this site is worth a look…
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/8803/fcometpi.htm
Cheers Plazz,not to worry mate.Just wanted to make sure my mail got through ok.
Would you mind if I used one or two of your piccies?I’m thinking of emailing an aviation mag or two about the plight of the swift,and it’d be good if I could send ’em a pic or two.I have written to Aeroplane about her in the past,but as I didn’t have any pics they didn’t show too much interest.
Thanks again Plazz,you’re a star.
With regard to the Hatfield site,the land is owned by the University of Hertfordshire.It was apparently agreed quite a while before the airfield actually closed down that BAe would donate the site to the University.The current redevelopments do include some domestic housing,but much of it will be new buildings for the Uni and I’m lead to believe that only a small part of that will be a campus site,so there wouldn’t be too many folks in general area on a daily basis.
My brother was head of the Student’s Union at UHU last year,and he got to see the plans for himself,which is where my info comes from.The hangar is listed and will not be demolished,although I don’t know what they plan to do with it.My idea would be to use the place as a dual museum and engineering dept.,the students working on the airframes as part of thier course.Just an idea…
As for the Trident which used to be there,she was chopped up last August.I managed to get a look round her on my visit in July and came away with one or two instruments from the engineers panel which now make excellent paperwieghts.
Hi Plazz.Have there been any developments on this yet?Emailed you a few days ago,hope it got through ok.
I can’t believe another major UK museum is considering chopping up an early mark Comet.This situation with outdoor airframes is getting ridiculous,there has to be some sort of push to get hangars built on existing museum sites,or to establish a museum or collection in existing vacant hangars,even if it can’t be opened to the public for the time being.
I know there’s probably very,very little chance of it happenning,but Hatfield would make an aproriate home for the Comet,and various other airframes.I can think of atleast a dozen ‘at risk’ airframes which would have an appropriate home at Hatfield.The surviving hangar on the site is absolutely HUGE, it seems absolutely ridiculous that a vast indoor space like that is vacant whilst aircraft rot outdoors.I visited the derelict Hatfield site on my way back from Legends last year,and it struck me that the guys at the IWM would kill for hangar space like that.
Regarding the question about paint removal,it depends what sort of restoration is being carried out.Generally with a cosmetic ‘make-over’,the old finsh is cleaned up and rubbed down a bit,then the new stuff applied on top.In theory this is benefical to the airframe,as the extra layers of paint give better protection to the airframe,although it can get a bit ridiculous.One museum recently decided to do a thorough restoration of a former Danish Air Force Hunter which had been with various museums since the 70’s.During paint stripping,they discovered something like 15 layers of paint before they reached bare metal!!
This approach wouldn’t really be tolerated on an airworthy aircraft as the wieght of the paintwork is quite considerable.
As I understand it,most museums and preservation groups prefer to avoid spraypainting if possible as there are quite a number of health and safety issues to consider.The majority paint thier aircraft with rollers and some brushwork,and the results are usually pretty good,the Shack at Coventry being a prime example. Despite it’s vast size,the entire aircraft was painted with rollers,no mean feat when you consider that the workforce is fairly small and that the whole job was done outdoors.I would imagine this is what Cosford would do with thier exhibits,and I’m pretty certain it’s what they did with the Neptune.
I dunno if I’m alone on this one,but to be frank I’m not TOO concerned about the Lanc bits at Sandhoft.It’s certainly a shame to leave those bits about the place and do nothing about them,but to me the Lincoln components are more important when you consider the number of Lincolns that are left (one at Cosford, one in storage awaiting restoration in Argentina),and then there’s always that Fairey Gannet!
I don’t like to criticise preservation groups,but IAG are becoming something of a bad joke and something ought to be done pretty swiftly if we’re not to lose some important airframes and components.
This is another one of those cases where you wish there was some legal authority behind somebody like BAPC so that airframes couldn’t be treated this way.What are the chances of that ever happenning I wonder…
From what I’ve read,there is a big problem with the Russian mafia and other corrupt groups becoming involved in these recovery operations.In one case a few years ago,one ‘mafia’ group sold one Hurricane wreck to a number of different western collectors. They then cut the aircraft up into sections,one buyer getting the wings,one the tail etc etc,and some got nothing at all.As far as I know,there have been very few prosecutions brought against anyone for this type of crime,and I’m lead to belive that it’s still pretty rife.All in all,these discoveries are best kept secret to try and prevent criminal involvement,but it may be that thoughts of recovery attempts have been thwarted by criminal activity.
Do you happen to know who it has gone to Ian?Guy Black’s name cropped up in a news item about the recovery in Aeroplane,so presumed it was to do with him.