Lovely stuff,keep ’em coming please. 🙂 I love the air-air Mossie shot with Gib in the background.
Just to be a pedantic little so-n-so,I think the French “Dauntless” might actually be an A24 Banshee,the purely land-based version built for (but hardly used by) the USAAF. A24’s were operated by the Armee de l’Air from 1944,no idea when they were retired.
Edited to say I’ve just found a bit of info on the web about the French A24’s…
http://home.att.net/~jbaugher4/a24_7.html
I believe you’re correct Lowtimer,British reggies can’t be re-applied to another aircraft. As you say,the US do re-use registrations,as do a nimber of other countries.
I like the G-HISS idea. 🙂
Sorry John,all the G-A??? series reggies are well and truly spoken for. According to the CAA’s G-INFO database,G-ACOB was a Phillips & Powis Miles M2C Hawk. G-COBR appears to be available though. 🙂
Thanks for the update Peter. I agree it’s a shame she won’t be kept in post-war config,but I suppose it was inevitable that she’d be restored as a bomber. I’m just glad that such positive action has been taken to preserve her,no matter how she’s finished she’ll be an absolute gem.
Do you happen to know how the team plan to go about repairing the centre-section mainspars and bomb-bay area? I’ve seen some pictures of the damage the cutting torch and corrosion has done in that area,and it looks like one hell of a repair job. Will the spars have to be replaced??
Just to add a few thoughts to the debate on black/white undersurfaces,I’d always thought it was done to identify the aircraft as friendly,just like the later D-Day stripes. IIRC,the scheme was replaced by black and white stripes in time for the Dieppe raid in 1942. Can’t rememebr where I read this,it was a few years ago now.
Adding to Mark12’s reference to Spits in 1941 with the Night & White scheme,I’ve seen some pics of Hurricanes in N Africa and Malta around the same time with the same scheme. BBMF’s PZ865 was painted up in just such a scheme a few years ago…
Thanks bentwingbomber,duly corrected. 🙂
IIRC,the aviation mags a few years ago published pics of a seriously mangled Soviet Spitfire IX,reported to have spun into the ground inverted. It was reported that it was going to be restored to flight using a ‘patented metal straightening process’! Was this PT879?
I’m not directly involved with IWM or Shuttleworth,but I’m certain the collection now have full ownership,and have done for a few years. IIRC,when she was first flown she proved to be rather tail-heavy so the operating gear for the hook was removed,so I don’t think the hook has ever been used since her service days. Am I right in thinking it’s the type of hook that can only be retracted by hand once the aircraft is on the deck/ground? Would plow quite a furrow in the OW turf! 🙂
It looks very similar to an Avro Avian monoplane (the Avian was built in bi and mono form),but the engine looks different and I don’t recall seeing any other Avians with wheel spats. Best I can do…
Cheers Mark,much appreciated,it seems it was definately LF363. 🙂
Taking this thread just slightly off topic,does anyone know which Hurri was zipping about over the Watford area one evening early last week? It was in a Battle of Britain scheme so it was either ‘363 or the Vacher’s R4118,but couldn’t tell whether it had the roundals under the wings. (The Vacher Hurri has them,’363 doesn’t/didn’t).
“I think the air race one had an Anson done up as a Boeing too, didn’t it?”
Ah,well remembered.Yep,that’s the one.
Glad to see this thread still generating some comments,I wondered whether to put the pics up in the first place and glad I did now. Some interesting responses.
I agree that ‘AA has been re-assembled and displayed extremely well,but at the same time it does seem a shame that so much indoor floor space is going to waste. I agree some museums do tend to clutter things up a bit,but keeping exhibits indoors is the only way of anything like garaunteeing their long term future. Bearing this in mind,I’m not one who minds the cluttered approach. Additionally,I’m not suggesting the Concorde hangar should necessarily be cluttered up with stuff,simply that atleast some of the floor space should be used to bring things like the TwinPin and Dove back indoors. The Scottish climate isn’t too kind at the best of times,and coupled with EF’s location not too far from the coast it makes sense to protect as many of the airframes as possible surely?
Thanks for the feedback DH90,and the very best of luck with the project,it’ll be great to have perhaps three airworthy examples in the future. Perhaps it’s a bit soon to be thinking about such things,but what colour scheme do you intend to finish her in?Will she be another Grovesner House?
Dave,of the five originals built, Grovesner House (G-ACSS) is airworthy with the Shuttleworth Collection,although it hasn’t flown regularly for a while. The remains of Black Magic (G-ACSP) are currently under long-term restoration to fly,although as I understand it, it will be largely new-build. The replica in the US is the only other flying example at the moment,dressed up as Grovesner House.
Additionally,there are a couple of static replicas,one dangling from the ceiling of a shopping centre on the old airfield site at Hatfield,and another currently with the DH museum at London Colney. The museum’s example was built for an Aussie TV documentary about the MacRobertson race about 15 years ago,and from what i’ve seen of the bits and pieces it’s very convincing,including very deceptive fibre-glass engines! The museum are currently restoring it and detailing it even further,hence why I’ve only seen it in bits.
Many thanks for the info and pics DH90,she’s looking mouthwatering even at this early stage. How faithful is this this replica likely to be to the original? I know the US replica has a different NACA profile to the original in order to improve the handling slightly,will this one be the same?