Thanks for the feedback folks.I did a bit of hunting around and found this webpage which gives details of the Hatfield hangar conversion.It’s apparently going to become one of europe’s largest health and fitness centres…
http://www.nextgenerationclubs.co.uk/pages/press_story.asp?id=42
I also found a site with details and pics (spot the Trident) of the BAe146 hangar which used to stand behind the Comet hangar.It can only have been erect(!) for a couple of years before the place closed,and it seems to have been an advanced piece of kit,with wind sensors etc.It seems hard to imagine that it would’ve been demolished after such a short life,so was it dismantled and relocated elsewhere??
http://www.reidsteel.aero/recent/hatfield.htm
Bruce,my intention is to make a trip down to the Mossie museum ASAP,watch this space…
I’ve recently (about 4 weeks ago) moved up to St.Albans to start a new job,and I frequently go through the old Hatfield airfield site on my way to and from work.Whilst it’s sad to see the aerodrome being built on,it’s good that a number of the airfield buildings survive.
Does anybody know what’s happenning with the big flight test hangar and adjascent control tower??It was derelict for a long time,but just recently there’s been alot of activity around it-the hangar doors are often open and the lights in the offices on.It looks as though the building is being refurbished,rather than demolished as I once feared.I had heard that there were plans to turn it into a leisure centre (!),but that somehow doesn’t ring true.Anyone know what’s going on?
I’d also like to know what plans there are for the buildings on the site of the old airfield entrance.All appear derelict and one has been gutted by fire.They’re a bit of an eyesore at the moment,but they look basically sound and redeemable.Are they listed??
As if I hadn’t waffled on for long enough already,there’s a building over by the Galleria shopping centre which is unmistakeably one of the old airfield buildings,with a model of a Dh88 sitting on a pole outside.Can anyone tell me what this building was,and/or what it’s used for today?
Sorry to go on so much,but I’ve started taking a serious interest in the place since I moved up here,and any info would be welcome. 🙂
There’s a short paragraph of info and a fairly recent piccy on DamienB’s Thunder and Lightnings site.Looks like she’s been moved to Exeter airport…
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/gnat/survivorspics3.html#XM697
My guess is that it’s an LB30 Liberator,the transport version of the B24,hence the lack of turrets.The serial sugests that the aircraft was built to a British order,but then impressed into service with the USAAF. I expect someone on the forum will be able to give more definate info by chasing up the serial number.
“BOAE is under cover at Grantley Adams in Barbados-temporary structure until a hangar is built for it, so perhaps it stands more of a chance that the one on the barge.”
Quite true,I was very happy to hear of the efforts being undertaken to get ‘AE undercover.I’ve heard that the long term plan is to put her in a purpose built air-conditioned building,which if true is absolutely fantastic news.
However,I stick by what i said about ‘AD in New York-she won’t last long out there without regular maintenance and perhaps even transporting her back to JFK for refurbishment every once in a while.As a progression of that,perhaps she could eventually be permenantly displayed at JFK?? It seems like the only sensible long-term solution.
Thanks for the photo’s Mike,both machines look great.Let’s hope it’s not too long before they’re moved indoors,otherwise they may start to look not quite so great-the T.7 Hunter is already starting to fade noticably.
Anyone know what hangarage plans FAST have??
I think that was at the beginning of last year Daz.IIRC, the wheels dug into the soft water-logged earth of her home airstrip,which reduced her ground clearance sufficiently for the prop to hit the floor.Not sure if the engine was shock-loaded,but she’s up and about again now anyhow. 🙂
“On the TLC of aircraft when the C2 Comet ex 216 Sqn was at Dux a few years ago that too was in a terrible state, one of the port tyres was deflated, the paintwork looked much the same as the other outside exhibits, I wrote to Ted Inman at the time, and received a reply, to say that XK??? was then being moved to a final rest home, what ever happened to her?”
Not good news I’m afraid,XK695 was chopped up in the early 90’s,the cockpit being saved for the DH Museum at London Colney,Herts,where it’s displayed today.The IWM’s reasoning was that they had another Comet in better nick,the Dan-Air Comet 4,so it was decided to sacrifice the Comet 2 rather than spending money they didn’t have on an aircraft type they had another example of.I know,I know,the C.2 was completely different to a Comet 4,but they were both Comets and IWM try not to collect more than one example of a particular aircraft type,particularly such a large one as a Comet.It seems a very harsh decision on the face of it,but when you think about it you have to sympathise with IWM to a degree.
As for Lottery grants,I think the usual practise is for the grant to cover a certain amount of the overall cost of a project,while the rest is raised by corporate sponsorship,donations,entrance fees etc.It’s relatively rare for the Lottery to pay the entire sum for a project.I’m not sure how this all works out with the AirSpace project at Duxford,but I think it’s something like 50% from the lottery and another substantial amount from various companies such as BAe,with the remainder being covered by fund-raising and entrance fees.
As for free entry,there was a thread about this a year or so ago on the forum.If I remember rightly,IWM Lambeth (and perhaps IWM North too) is covered by the government’s free admission initiative,but the other branches (Eg,HMS Belfast,Duxford) are not.Don’t ask me why,but that’s how things stand at the moment. A number of the museums/galleries etc who now have free admission have recently been making complaints that they’ve not been recieving enough funding.If so,then perhaps we can be glad that Duxford is not included in the scheme.
Here’s the link to Damien’s Southend pictures…
“What happened to PM631 then, too? Not heard about that one.”
She started losing oil during her display at Southend last weekend,there’s a picture on the forum of her trailing the stuff.The pilot took her back to Southend airport sharpish,but alot of damage had already been done.Apparently,the engine only had 5 hours on it and it’s a complete write off!Still,it could’ve been worse if the display wasn’t so close to the airport.
Not good news,it’s not been a good week for BBMF what with PM631 losing all her oil last weekend and writing her engine off.Here’s hoping ‘363’s damage isn’t too serious,and best wishes to all the guys at BBMF who must be working flat out over this weekend.Keep up the good work guys!
Hi Dave,
MK732 is still active today,although she shed her D-Day markings a couple of years agao and now flies in her old Dutch AF colours…
http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/spitfiremk2a/mk732_gallery1.html
Hi John,
I sympathise with your feelings about the Hastings,there’s no doubt she’s looking rather tatty at the moment.However,there’s light at the end of that tunnel as she’s one of the many airframes earmarked for the Superhangar once that’s been renovated. The completion of the work is some months away,so it’ll be a while before she can finally go indoors,but once there she’ll be safe from the elements.My guess is that she’ll recieve some tlc shortly before or just after she’s been rolled into her new home-if the work were done now the aircraft would still have to sit out in the elements for the next few months,allowing the paint to wear and the lichen to grow etc.Once she’s indoors,she’ll be done up good as new and stay that way. 🙂
As for the gate price,I can only presume that it’s to cover the cost of the building and restoration work,so perhaps after this spell of expansion and feverish activity the price will fall again.Here’s hoping anyway…
Hi Black Knight,
I presume you mean PV202/IAC161? 😉 PT462 is the ex-Charles Church two-seater that was recovered from Israel in the 70’s and is now owned and flown by Anthony Hodgson from his airstrip in Wales.
As for IAC 161,I’ve not heard anything yet,but here’s hoping it won’t be too long.
“One’s got a license, and the other hasn’t.
Well you asked for it “
Ya know,when I was writing this thread starter,I thought about putting “and don’t say coz one’s got a license and the other hasn’t”,but then I thought “Nah,nobody would stoop so low”. 😉 😀
Thanks for the explaination Met24,that makes things clearer.I had thought for a long time that it applied to airfield facilities rather than runways,eg whether there were any fire crews,airfield control,customs etc.,.Thanks again 🙂