Is that Mig-25 pic real?

Wow….seriously strong aircraft.

Umm, i believe that’s just a PS.:)

“Oh it’s a huge 23 meters long, 70,000lb behemont bomber/striker !!!11!! Oh it’s a MiG-31 style interceptor, fast , but not much else, it’s underpowered and un-maneouverable!!!!111!!!”

I wonder if those who keep to the above nonsense will retract their words, ESPECIALLY the so called western press “experts”.( why on earth are they get the huge amount of money they obviously get for the rubbish they come out with?)

On another theme, obviously i’m no expert, but J-20 seems to be quite light on it’s feet, is it ?

Maybe they are gold plated…:D

what do you think of this?

Perhaps the person who made that, ummm…professional comparison should start by learning to spell “comparison” …:confused:

Ummm…he said a company owned Su-30MKI…;) (nothing to do with India)

Its not really that important of matter, fellas, the documents should be open for discussion in another eighteen years.

Maybe it is, maybe it’s not. Me at least i’m wondering what else uncle sam does not want to talk about, lies about , or keeps quiet about. 🙂 ( not just F-117, but GW1, GW2 etc. etc. )

Yes. Five documents were retrieved on the search, but all are still classified.

TJ

Thanks TJ.

Oh please. If your definition of an S-duct is any inlet duct that isn’t a straight line, then the point of this discussion is moot. By that logic, F-15 and F-16 both have S-ducts…

When we say S-duct, we specifically mean inlet ducts specifically shaped in a way to minimise radar return from the engine compressor face. We mean the ones seen in B-2, F-22, F-35, the ones that are designed for stealth even at the expense of lower pressure recovery.

The inlet duct on the 1.44 is not an S-duct. Is it straight? No. But it’s not an S-duct.

Sorry ? F-35 has an “S-duck”? No it doesn’t, it’s just a single engine aircraft , with side intakes. That’s not one of these bloody “S-ducks” everyone is mental about either.;)

Umm, yeah the never ending story of the F-35’s price.
Imagine if you go in a car shop and want to buy a car, and you ask

“How much is that car” ? “
” $9999!”
” Hmm, good price “
” Perhaps i should tell you that’s the price without engine, wheels and steering…”
“:eek: ”

Ridiculous isn’t it ?

Also, don’t want to pick on anyone or anything, far from me , but after seeing a quite perplexing post on another forum, Spudman WP if you don’t mind , how on earth do you know the recation time of F-35s EODAS , plus the COMPETITOR’s ( i can’t remember if it was PAK-FA or not ) aswell(?!), to say that the F-35’s one is ” many times faster “? No offence, just being quite puzzled after reading that. Thanks.:)

Anyway this whole F-35 story is quite an entertaining soap opera.

Edit: some news linked to the above :
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/09/navy-jsf-cost-has-several-estimates-f35-091111w/#.Tmze6fc-0-I.hotmail