Lol you guys are funny about this blocker/FOD thing …:p
Imho, there’s abolutely nothing there. Just some stains done somehow. Just looks at the tons of pics around , those stains only go sort-off halfway around the nacelles. Plane having been jacked up for some sort of checks? The simplest explanation is usually the most probable one.
BTW …does anyone know if 51 and 52 flew since last time i asked about it ?( after MAKS i meen) :confused:
And secondly, anything new about T-50-3 from the insiders ?
Thanks.:)
PS: Oh and those stains are not even aligned , if they would indicate to being any of the items asserted ( blocker/ FOD screen or whatever ) wouldn’t they suposed to be sort off aligned to eachother ? There is abolutely nothing there, just some stains.
original photo
So …ummm…SUKHOI was just playing games with us then ?:eek:
http://www.sukhoi.org/img/content/news/18_06_2010_04.jpg
How about the other pic that allegedly “clearly ” shows the compresor face or whatever it is.(i think that’s the ones Dionis talks about).
http://paralay.com/pakfasu/610.jpg
Rubbish, to stay polite.
Would be interesting to know what exactly are those “undesirable flight characteristic”. Conversely , if (at least?) F-35B needs spoilers, by extrapolating what spoilers do and what they might add to F-35B’s flight characteristics , then we can sort see where the problem is (unfortunately i know little to nothing of such detailed aerodinamics, hopefully more informed folks can figure that one out).
Oh and yeah, great idea to start series production before testing (or at least aerodinamic testing ) works out as planned. What can go wrong, other that get all the flying articles , all the ones almost ready for flight , and all the ones in constructions and make those structural mods( with all that it implies-worm, can, open etc ), like spoilers and whatever else needs done .:diablo:
Btw when are the LRIP-2 F-35B aircraft are planned to start flying? And what’s the schedule for LRIP-3 ?
Thanks.:)
Here is a concept art by a guy named parijat gaur at militaryphotos on how fgfa/pak-fa might look in IAF colours. The shade he used is a wee bit light IMO.
Kudos to the creator for his efforts , but IMO the proportions (at least at the back) are completely wrong like…where are the engines ?! (yes i know it’s suposed to show flat nozzles, but they are way too forward imo, which makes the plane look like it has no engines!)
I think saintkatanalegacy’s artwork was much more ” realistic ” in that respect.
Oh and Imho i bet FGFA, at least in the initial planned incarnation will not have flat nozzles. :rolleyes:
Just a question if i may …did either 51 or 52 flew since MAKS ? Well if the rumours are correct, 51 is probably under repair for that cracked fuel tank (?), but 52 should be ok, at least according to press statements…right ? :confused:
(mind you it’s possible 52 is thoroughly checked and double checked to avoid little surprises like last Sunday, so probably that might take a while)
Hmm , so if the date is correct , 52 flew the day after the Sunday Aug 21st surge? :confused:
AND (imo) you can see that the bay doors are articulated (third picture), which we kinda suspected but it looks fairly confirmed now.:)
Just a question if i may …did either 51 or 52 flew since MAKS ? Well if the rumours are correct, 51 is probably under repair for that cracked fuel tank (?), but 52 should be ok, at least according to press statements…right ? :confused:
(mind you it’s possible 52 is thoroughly checked and double checked to avoid little surprises like last Sunday, so probably that might take a while)
That’s the one for the rear sector coverage. The KS-V (picture above KS-O) frontal aspect IRST, seems to be treated a la F-35.
Btw, again getting back to N-036 , i swear i saw somewhere on the russian fora in a post the designations of all the 5 antennas of the system (something like N-036-01L or similar for instance ) , but for the life of me can’t remember where i saw them . Anyone know what i meen ? :confused:
Thanks.
NVM, got it, courtesy of mr.Flateric.
изд. Ш-121 входят:
− изд. Н036 – антенная система переднего обзора Н036-1-01;
− антенная система L-диапазона Н036L-1-01;
− антенные системы бокового обзора – Н036Б-1-01Л и Н036Б-1-01Б
right. color border on radome shows the place that has serrated ‘relief’ on prototype’s metallic radome (which has no canted joint line to forward fuselage). ‘teeth’ and radome joint line at fuselage FWD frame are canted in opposite directions. seems that on some reason N036 antenna is aligned to that serrated pattern on radome
Thanks for your kind explanations.:) It should be quite interesting when they will roll T-50-3 out and fly it, whenever that will be. (hopefully they won’t keep it secretno :eek:-i know rumour is it’s suposed to be rolled out by the end of this month)
Regarding N-036-are the cheek arrays still in the game ? ( only the front antenna was shown this MAKS , wonder what else was under those fluffy covers)
Thanks.
A500 – All the references to the J-20 in the DoD’s latest Chinese mil power report talk about it as a strike platform, so you may be on to something.
Imho, the DOD “report” about J-20 as a strike platform ( and pretty much anything else they say about J-20 and the chinese in general ) is rubbish . Anti-chinese propaganda.
(OMG they build stealth bomber , they wanna attack Taiwan , they wanna conquer Asia , they wanna conquer the world !!!111!!! Look how we the good honest trustworthy americans are warning you and will protect you from them !!!11!!!USA strong !!1111!!!! etc etc.)
lol Flateric where did you get this stuff? you sure the FSB wont knock on your door one day ?;)
( that is of course the -production ?-PAK-FA nose showing the radome line-canted- right ? 😮 can see the IFR cover…)
It’s both canted and jagged 😉
Good catch, i initially forgot about the T-50-2 first flight pics where you can see the serrations on the nose.
Indeed it also seems the serration line it’s canted.
This is the first time noticing for me, maybe others figured it out long before. I bet they will go for something similar to the MiG-29K radome serration on the PAK-FA . It will be canted ( unlike the MiG) , BUT it seems those serrations are in relief ( as in they “stick” out just a little bit), compared to for instance the F-22 where the radome is serrated itself ( and not have serrations “casted” on it )
Probably it’s simpler easier /cheaper to just built the radome almost as usual and “cast” the serrations on it rather than laboriously serrate it and the shape of the nose, panelling etc etc?
Do peoples in the know can tell if there are any apreciable aerodinamic /signature penalties compared to the traditional way ?
Thanks.
PAK-FA: Not gonna speculate on numbers on this, too many variables.
PAK-FA: According to various bits of news here and there, 10 preseries, 60 series after 2015 ? (at least that’s the plan isnt’ it ?)
Other : are the A-100 AEWs planned in the before 2020 timeframe ?
How about the current A-50s, are they being upgraded too? How many are they now, about 20 ?
How about LUS, any concrete plans about them or …
Mi-28N: 97 by 2015. Final plans have been announced as over 200, but that seems a lot given the other attack helo orders. Either way, production would have to be boosted from today’s ~15/year to meet this in a reasonable time frame. Modernization underway.
Ka-52: 30 by 2012, production will continue after. A number of 120 has been floated.
Mi-35M: 22 ordered, Russian Helicopters seemed to imply more might be bought; given the above two gathering pace, seems unlikely.
Mi-26: 20 new airframes by 2020.
Ka-226: 30 current order, 20 more for Navy?
Mi-28: Many. ~500?
Ka-62: Recent info indicates MOD interest in over 100 airframes…still vague at this time.
Ansat-U: Up to 70 through 2020.
Ka-27/29: ~70 ?
Ka-52K: ~30 ?
You meen Mi-8 : Many .~500 right?
Btw thanks, very informative summary.