You meen all production Su-34s have this engine Scorpion ? is the trust rating of 13,300kgf( 13,500kgf according to mzak.cz) to for this engine correct ?( thats what i found on the net …and aparently the engine passed its test in december 2006 on a Su-27SM…)
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RO will probably get F-35s, but only when those would be rusting at AMARC for years aswell…
Someone should tell our politicians that RO is located in EUROPE , not on the american continent… :confused:
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If true , they’re crazy…they’re *******ing crazy. 😡
I dont know about the optical systems, they were removed even from the old Mig-35 demonstrator bort “154 blue ” recently ( they were still on at MAKS 2009-maby they were only mock-ups?)
F-16C/D-25 were delivered starting in 1984 …so they are on average at least 25 years old( Lancer-Cs, the only really useful variant , are about 10-13 years older)…as for how many flight hours , no idea , but a whole lot more than any of the Lancers, thats for sure…( yeah i know , the american planes last longer and all that …)
I’m sure the F-16 peoples would know more about this , but arent all the C/D-25 retired and stored at AMARC? ( cant remember since when , if that info is right )
As for the F-35 in ROAF ..well i’m hopeing i’ll be still around when that will happen …:confused:
mack8, the Lancer C use both the Magic II and Python III. It may not make sense to use two very similar missiles, but this is Romania.
a few pictures to convince you:
http://lcaerodesign.com/index.php/photo-galery/category/1-mig-21?start=100andrei, the Mica in the article you linked reffers to Mica VL, the SAM version. Purchasing it together with Mistral was an almost done deal last year (needed to replace the old 57 mm guns protecting the airbases) but the deal was dropped after a corruption scandal (the system was around 320 mil. euros, but Romania was supposed to pay 400, the diference of 80 milion Euros going into the pockets of some middlemen – and surely higher up the political-business chain).
Far less than 80 Lancers are in service, they will be dropped from service as soon as the F-16s will be made operational.Griffon39, there will be no SPYDER acquisition, Mica VL and Mistral were selected, but not purchased due to reasons mentioned above. The Lancers will go nowhere but to the scrapheap, they were supposed to be reitred in 2011-12, and some are going now trough a (last) overhaul and modest life extension program to enable them to drag on until 2013, when the F-16s should be operational.
Well you surely got me convinced about the Python-3s, thanks , btw really great website there!
Would you know by any chance how many Pythons they bought and when ? i know i’ve read about RO buying 140 MAGICs starting from 1997( year when the contract was signed-besides the launchers were suposed to be made at Ploiesti-LM-52s), dunno how reliable that is tho…
Also extremely interesting infos about the MICAs , i wasnt aware they intended to buy them …any plans for the future , they wanna keep the plans for buying them( with a reworked contract minus the “middlemen”, offcourse) or they wanna buy something else?
As far as the existing missiles being used on the “new” F-16s, well Python is almost certainly a no ( so are any bombs , UBs, S-24s etc …maby the jammers and the LDPs/ARPs, but i dont know…), as for Magics, i know they were integrated on some F-16s , question is will the americans do it and the french give the americans the codes …just speculation for now, time will tell.
Thanks again for your great info , Googeler.
A few more words about it. It was a political decision after all. The air force was upset because they were planning and asking for a new fighter since 2007. Following the november election and re election of the pro american, uncle sam ..ss licker president he promised them what they wanter. more cannon fodder, i.e romanian infantry for aghanistan, new basis for anti missile interceptors (24 standard 3) against iran threat and now the f16 deal. no way this president was going to go for an european solution. so the army swallowed its pride (my sources indicated that they wanted anything but used planes with a preference for eurofighters ) and instead of waiting another 5 years at least for a new president with no flyable planes now they made their reccomendation for this stop gap solution hoping for best after. problem is all the air force weapons are french or israeli (mica and pythons) and may have to be rewired or dropped … and we will have to pay for new us weapons. for the moment no news about the source of the planes israeli or us, i suppose us though
One comment here, Lancers have MAGIC2 not MICAs ..as for the Pythons , maby they tested them on Lancers , but i never saw them operational…( wouldnt make sense anyway to have two different missiles with comparable performance)
Yeah , been reading that on other places aswell , i’ll look on youtube to see if i can find anything…
I’m very dissapointed too… “Free”? Ha, dont make me laugh! its gonna cost alot of money to make at least flybale those junkyard Block25s that rusted in a desert somewhere …probably its gonna cost them more than a new one!
Hungarians got Gripens , czechs got Gripens , poles at least got new Block 52 , bulgarians SLEP-ed their Mig-29s…But well done RO , for equiping your AF from a junkyard…i bet the RO pilots are “very” excited…
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This bird was used before for radar testing ,without any exterior give-away( Irbis radar), so its not excluded that it is indeed testing the PAK-FA radar atm …the author of the pic seems to be a big name ,and i guess its hard not to take his word…
Still the only way to find out 100% is to take the radome off , but thats not gonna happen too soon is it ?:p
To use in this context a quote from an article about the PAK-FA , this is how the Hollywood would think a russian bomber should sound! Beautiful and spine chilling indeed, wouldnt like to be on the receiving end …:D
Yes indeed it will be Otaku! I actually send them an e-mail asking them how can i pay to get the electronic version , but they havent replied to me …:(
Thanks for the link , looks like those are some of new Mi-8MTV-5s ordered recently ( according to the Mi-8 article in one of the western magazines)…interesting they dont have the dust separators…
^^^ Probably a Mig-35 prototype that is taking part in MMRCA test.
961 and 967 has just 3 HP under each wing compared to the 5 HP under each wing we saw on Mig-35 model
All current generation Mig-29s have 8( naval) and 9 hardpoints , 4 under each wing.
Again ,imo that model of the Mig-35 with 11 harpoints and bigger wings and whatnot its just that , a model …haveing the real Mig-35 so much different that the other 4+generation Mig-29s would ruin the concept of deep comonality , isnt it ? New wings, new tail, require structural modifications , validations, testing…
Besides ,it will be heavier and draggier, and if they wanna keep the performance , they need new engines, and so on ,and so on… as you can see its all like an avalanche!
Just my 2 pence.
So clearly the pretend ‘MiG-35’ (29M2) and MiG-29KUB ‘967’ are NOT the same aircraft- but both have the [early] Zhuk-AE aboard.
Imho, the pretend ‘MiG-35’ and the MiG-29K ‘961’ are involved in the MMRCA trials and ‘967’ is testing the Zhuk-AE for the RuNavy (and probably for the follow-on batch for the IN)…….but then…why no arrester hook :confused::confused:
Well , maby you could understand more from the article in VZLET,unfortunetly i dont speak russian, tho i’m struggling to read thru the lines, 11/2009 is the number in question ,the MMRCA article, they are all there from the beggining , free for everyone to read , just click on the PDF icon…
http://www.take-off.ru/index.php/2009
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Found this pic on VZLET website thru Flugzeugforum…now what is interesting is not only this pic , but in the 11/2010 number of the said magazine , you can not only see this pic of 961 , but also one of 967 haveing STILL a big radome , not the small one in the recent pics! Its also sports 3 long range tanks like 961 , and in the article , they mention something about october , but i cant make out what exactly , maby the(ir) first flight ? anyone of the Russian peoples seen the article?
Also , i might be talking nonsense, but could it be that these two machines might have taken part in the indian MMRCA testing ?( the long range configuration might imply they left somewhere…).
Finally does anyone know where are 941 and 947 K/KUB at the moment ? any reliable info ?
Thanks.