Well afaik the Mig-29K being built atm are new airframes( and currently the only exponents of the new unified family), as oposed to the Mig-35 demonstrator which is basically an updated Mig-29M from the eighties…
Correct me if i’m wrong , but a new Mig-35 would be basically a K/KUB without folding wings, but with the corosion treatment , new improved contruction fuselage, but without the Kruger devices , and the hardpoint under the fuselage ,and maby small size flaps( thats only speculaton tho)…
Guess we have to wait for pics from different angles of 961 to see those details aswell…
On RAC MiG’s page on MiG-35 , they mention a total of nine hardpoints … well , they should know better how many it will have , they are building it! if they say so , i’m sure nine it is then…
Holly cow , Syrian MLD is awesome!:eek:
Interesting that it doesnt have the dispensers at the base of the fin , and no serials on the nose…
Thanks, great find!
Hope this helps you.
Phil
Ah , thank you very much Phil, thats brilliant! 😮
I guess its pretty safe to assume now based on the info gathered here that export MLDs all had N-008E radar…
Now, next one is a really loooong shot… but assuming Erwinhans might be actually right ( which information coincides well with what i have in an Exprint book on MiG-23 …i’ll try to attach the relevant page from it), and they indeed built an upgraded ML since 1978 which allegedly has the S-23MLA radar with 6 working modes(?) and offcourse ability to fire R-24s, i am wondering if the nose stencils concerning the radar would be different eg. showing something like “Bloki izd. 323MLA” instead of “Bloki izd. 323ML” as i saw on a ML aparently from 82nd series…
If we can find ( and thats the long shot!) a late series-as late as it can be – ML from VVS nose stencils which didnt got rebuilt as a MLD, at least we will get an infirmation or confirmation that at least there is/there is not something about this MLA (which as Erwinhans points , and the Exprint book says , this designation was not used in VVS…).
Probably it wont be 100% quizz solving , but would be a start…would be at least hard facts rather than theory!
What can i say, i’m a very hard man to please!:D
My guess at general internal layout. I kept the T-50 canopy on purpose.
I concur to everyone’s opinion here , THAT is bloody nice ,marvelous work Planeman! ( i also concur about the IFR probe …;))
( and i’m not sure about the folding RVV-MD/R-73…but i might be wrong)
well, I don’t speak French, but #15 has 4.5m dimension and word missile in description.
isn’t R-73 less than 3m long?
Just dimensions, location and look of ot suggest AA weapon to me. I hope you guys are wrong, and it is a missile bay.
It says its 4.5m long and SUSCEPTIBLE (thought ) to house either an air-to-air missile , a side scanning radar or other electronic systems…roughly
Can anyone tell me what can be considered the most advanced version of the MiG-23? And, what weapons/equipment did/does it carry? Also, did the program to convert the MiG-23 to a pretty modern jet using the R77 ever materialize, I’d liked to have seen some MiG-21 Bison type upgrade on the 23.
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MLD was the most advanced operational version. There were several other prototypes based on it ,both domestic and for export with various improvements including ECM , but none were proceeded with …Mig-29 was in the pipeline.
Equipement …well lets see, N-008 radar( Sapphire-23MLA-2) , TP-26 IRST, SPO-15L RWR, BVP-50-60 chaff/flare dispenser in overwing strakes ,A-321 digital nav system,LAZUR ARL-SM ground control datalink system, R-862 radio, ASP-17MLD computing gunsight wich also serve a radar indicator…plus various other items, RV-5 radioalt ,autopilot , angle of attack limitator and control system etc etc ..thats what i can remember from the top of my head…( hope i didnt made any mistakes)
Armament:R-24R/T BVR missiles , R-60 or R-73 close range dogfight missiles, Gs-23L gun , various bombs and unguided rockets for A/G work…
Upgrade pojects , several of them offered in the nineties, most advanced of them offering new radar ( Moskit-23), new missiles including R-77 , new A/G guided weapons etc …Only Angola’s Mig-23s are rumored to be upgraded significantly ,allegedly allowing them to fire R-77s, and i guess the above angolan ML(D) picture suports this rumour ( that they got /are getting upgraded) strongly …
Hope this helps:)
IMO it becomes more and more certain that the side underwing fairing is for electronics /side radar , rather than weapons …check this still from a Smotr video posted on Paralay …
http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?style=12&p=59413#p59413
Does anyone have a pic of Lybian MLD showing the nose close enough to read the stencils there? Thank you.
To remain on topic, what is a 23-16 then? is that an initial project for the “full” MLD (23-18) or …:confused:
Unconfirmed reports indicate T-50-01 has undertaken its 2nd (successful) test flight today, [2/6] before transfer to LII, Gromov, Zhukovskii.
Good news thnaks.:)
Wonder if Zhukovsky is/will be surrounded by spotters when the thing gets there …:D( tho probably thats a stupid question …doh!)
If you get a copy of combat aircraft magazine this month it has an article in it about Lybian Mig-23’s. They operate the MLA and MS? versions. It was an interesting read.
I’ve read the article aswell , nice pics , but the info there lefts to be desired IMO…
Lybians had MS , MF( suported by photographic evidence) and the export MLDs surfaced recently …
I’d be very curious to read lybian MLD nose stencils…because thats the only other country apart from Syria and Bulgaria as far as i know that got the export MLDs .( Irak-as mentioned in the russian book-aparently didnt…at leats i’v never seen any , and surely something must have surfaced in the last 7 years since they were ocupied by the americans , if they realy had them…( they upgraded locally their MLs with SPO-15 and ASO-2 , but thats another story)
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The DoD was talking for years about SBR, but nothing ever materialized.
Nothing that we know off …;)
Re: Interesting is that when the Bulgarian Mig-23MLD 23-22A was equipped with N-008E, but the “B variant” for third world allies was equipped with N-003E.
Syrian MLD nose stencils…
It was more about the scale than actual number plates, but if the the satellite did have the resolution to see something the size of a number plate, it would be possible to get an image unless the satellite was directly overhead. It would be a bit distorted and stretched (to different amounts depending on the angle), but that can be computer corrected.
Thanks for explaining that Grim , yes i was talking figurately ( or figuratevly …:p)
Think i’ve read somewhere that modern satelites can get to 3cm resolution or even 1cm …
So you think the americans wouldnt use those satelites to track every movement of the oponents aircraft right on their airfield ( among many other things they might keep an eye on) ? to comunicate right away to the forces in the area when they started their taxi runs and liftoff? And even more?
Would be hard to believe that they dont ,i would if i’d be in their place…
No, first.
In KnA.
It’s T-50-1
Thank you for the info! Any news on second flight ?:)