Right, so the pilot actually made a perfect trap. Case closed.:)

Pictures please, pictures!:p

So , if they are suposed to deliver 6 Su-35S’s to VVS this year , does that mean that the odd one out is black 01, right ? (it has non standard fittings, no antennas or chaff/flare launchers on tail boom for instance)

VVS will receive red 02,03,04, 05-07 , right ?

Let’s see the score so far…..
1. F-35 can’t Supercruise.. and then it does
2. F-35 can’t go above 20 AoA… and then it demonstrates 50 AoA
3. F-35 is not LO… and then it exceeds spec
4. F-35 can’t go beyond m1… and then it hits m1.66
5. F-35 is not maneuverable… and then it hits 9.9g
6. EODAS is short range only… and then it tracks a rocket launch from over 800 miles away
7. The helmet problems cannot be fixed… and then they are
8. F-35 can’t catch the wire… and then it does

You do realize that you’re taking the absolute best figures LM can boast about in in public, which are rather not representative for what the aircraft can do in real life. Pulling 9,9 G is NOT an indicative of how maneuverable it is , tracking an IRBM in perfect clear sky UP TO about 800miles is completely irrelevant in the real world (far more relevant is at what distance can it see another fighter or a SAM) , and going M1.2 without AB is something pretty much most recent fighters can. Most importantly all the above with good and bad comes and a hideous cost, PLUS more hideous costs with actually making the thing work roughly as advertised. Still keep with the $65m price?

I just realized that LM slogan ” We never forget who we are working for ” fits them perfectly. The answer is their pockets , of course!

I have the feeling this will turn into another F-104 story (corruption , scandals, lackuster performance). And you know why is the F-35 not on time , not on budget and not on goal? Because of greed. If we’ll be still around in a decade or so , you’ll see.:)

PS: I for one can only welcome such a turn of events btw, the more scandals, unmet goals and unmet schedules, that much time the “russkies” and the “chicoms” have time to just lay low and work hard to get their respective birds up and running and especially ON SALE.:D

Um…i think i’ve read that article ( Super Flanker or something like that) , probably there’s some confusion, you’re probably mixing 710 ( Su-35/27M engine testbed) with bort 503 which indeed is Su-30(MKK type), used for radar testing.
710 , summer 2012
http://russianplanes.net/id81603
503 , spring 2012
http://russianplanes.net/id70127

Actually , yes bort 710 is a legacy Su-35 (Su-27M). But that’s a small detail.:)

While an interesting topic in itself , this is not really a tank forum , is it ? You’re probably better asking your questions on a land systems orientated forum imo. 🙂

Would be great if you can do that Berkut.:)