Yes, that’s what i was trying to remember. Thanks for the info.:)

Oh cry me a river. Anyone that can see Iran as a victim is deluding themselves. You may not agree with U.S. policy, but to somehow imply that Iran is a victim is a joke…

Did you guys know the Holocaust never happened? Also, we should destroy Israel…

Please prove who or where in this topic or indeed on this FORUM ever claimed that. Are you going to start again with the “oh, if they critic the israelis, then they must deny the Holocaust and it’s obviously a conspiracy to demonize, delegitimize Israel!!!111!!!” kind of crap ?

Yet, we are constantly derided and and ridiculed…looked down upon. I’m sick of it. No country on this planet is perfect, but to paint America as a bad guy is ridiculous…

Ridiculous ? Well i’m counting the bodies the freedom and democracy loving America has left behind either by your guns, or caused by you (and i’m only looking at the past 20 years). There are MILLIONS of them. Do you count the bodies? ( i know what you’re going to say , 9/11, 9/11!!!111!!, like that is actually a justification for killing MILLIONS, which killings were happening before 9/11 anyway). I’m also looking at the suffering and misery you (the americans) bring to peoples like Cubans, North Koreans, Iranians , Palestinians and many more , because of your forcefully imposed embargoes (or supporting such). I’m sure many in your country always have that wiggly satisfaction feeling whenever they hear about famine in North Korea , or hardship in Iran, Cuba and other places , while they stuff their 250lbs useless arses with burgers and “freedom fries”…

So yes Iran is a VICTIM ( even if , like i said , i despize their leadership for not maneuvering their country better against you). And i’m sure your corporations like Boeing or LM or whatever rejoyce at the 120 BILLIONS in weapons contract the “evil-Iran” is bringing them in ME.

Anyway , looking at the F-35 and J-31 lately , got me thinking , LO shape wise (ignoring materials and anything similar, just talking about shaping), is the J-31 better than F-35? No bulges and bumps under the fuselage, no bulges atop, nice clean bottom…what do you think?

IRANIANS playing with fire ? They have been threatened with bombing to the dark ages for decades, they have peoples assasinated by foreign services in their own country, they have been subjected to economic warfare by US and their “allies”, they have all kind of drones and assorted spying vehicled penetrating their airspace, and THEY are playing with fire ? Really?

In 1960 , the americans denied that a U-2 was shot down inside Soviet airspace.

In 1988 an iranian airliner with 290 CIVILLIANS on board has been shot down by the valiant , freedom loving US Navy , and the captain of that ship received a medal apparently . Hipocrisy anyone?

Don’t get me wrong, i despise the current iranian leadership for letting their country’s defences in such a bad state, and for not being able to maneuver their country against the US-israeli media and economic ( so far) offensive, and not the least for being some religious based dictatorship (and i greatly despise any of these religious sects abunding around these days), but i still stand by them in any face-off with the yanks and/or the israelis. The yanks want their oil , and the israelis want free hand to complete the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and Golan.

Thanks for your informative reply SpudmanWP.:)

If ASQ-239 does not have the capability to jam, how does the F-35 is suposed to evade a radar guided missile coming from the rear hemisphere, just with chaff and maneuvering ?:confused:

Oh , and as for the “huge” news that F-35 can supercruise, well after statements from SAAB, BAE and Dassault (and i think it was mentioned Su-35 was declared to be able to cruise at M1,3 i think in mil) regarding their products being able of supercruise in the M1,2-1,3 range with a representative load, of course LM has to come forward and say the same.:)

What would be very interesting will be the result of first DACTs between F-35 and AESA-equipped Typhoon or Rafales or comparable platforms etc. (sometime in the 2020s… probably) that will be quite entertaining.