You meen this one ?

Speaking of pictures , the other night i’ve found somewhere a picture of it loaded with jammer and Antilope pods under intakes , AS-30L, Magics and drop tanks underwing, and LGBs under the fuselage ( not the black and white one posted on this forum), taken roughly from the front , in flight , but i can’t remember where now! I should have saved it.

Too bad Iraq didn’t order Mirage 4000s, it would have made short work of Iran’s tomcats :diablo:

Forget about iranian Tomcats, maybe make short work of the F-15s and F-16s and F-18s! :diablo:

Anyway, that aside, i have a question which i hope our french aviation experts here would be kind to help with. Namely, how many BVR weapons ( Super-530 F/D specifically) and on which stations was the Mirage-4000 suposed to carry in a typical interceptor configuration? Are there are diagrams or models with the air to air loadouts anywhere?

I have managed (after looking the net far and wide) to find quite some impressive pictures from the eighties of it armed to the teeth for attack missions (no, not the one with 6 Magics), but couldn’t find anything showing it armed with Super-530s.

Thanks.:)

And just a nice pic to go with this new episode.:)

I agree.

4 missiles it is. Done.

I consider this a disadvantage , I know my opinion does’t count for anything but here it is.

Anyone agrees or disagrees I’d like to hear other opinions

What would be the point of continuing this, you obviously have your own opinions about this aircraft, and doubt anything will change them even if proved wrong. 🙂

I would more like to hear news about the latest flights , those IFR trials, anything about the bird and the programme itself.

Thanks to Tango III for pointing it out , T-50-2 engaged in initial IFR trials, T-50-1 to start flying again soon for high AOA trials, supermaneuverbility trials.

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120821/175341583.html

Sukhoi press release:

http://sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=4950

Lets look at the latest (Dec 2011) SAR.

Given that decline over 1 year, the question then is what will the increase be once F-35 enters large volume multiyear buys, and LM have also leaned the production lessons of the LRIP years.

LM will squeeze out of anyone buying their “wonder” as much money as they can to fill their pockets. If they can somehow get away with getting say 150 million per FRP copy, what do you think it will stop them from doing it?

The worst hit will be of course these small countries like Norway etc., or countries that do not have 700 billion or more to spend on weapons every year (i don’t count the israelis , they’re getting them for free anyway , so …).

You’ll see. Hopefully we’ll still be around in 2020 f.e., to see who was right. 🙂

I’ve read somewhere that “NATO” ( read, US ) killed more civilians (in the thousands) than actual serbian soldiers (a few hundred) , and only a few dozens each of tanks and IFV and other military targets, despite the much hyped up numbers they were bragging about. Don’t remember from the top of my head how many of the SAM launchers they destroyed, maybe some of our serbian members can help, but they were a threat to “NATO” until the last hour of the 78 day air siege.

Imagine the serbians having something like the 1991 Iraqi AF and AD and ground forces equipment (numbers i meen) . Jesus Christ they would have overun the surrounding “NATO” bases in those 78 days! 😀

Um…pretty sure our russian friends can confirm here , but my understanding is that so far the total indian contribution to the program is the $295 millions for the PMI’s R&D.

Perhaps it is PLANNED for them to contribute 50% (or whatever percentage it is) which i suspect it has to do with PMI only not the overall PAK-FA programme. But feel free to correct me.

And as a sidenote , while i have great respect for the Indians and their stubborn independence/non-alignment struggle, and for having the 4th most powerful AF in the world, if LCA (a friggin’ little light fighter) is indicative of indian aerospace’s current capacity , it doesn’t look terribly encouraging. Let’s hope things will improve for Rafale licence production, AMCA and PMI.