Here you go: Toshka (SS-21)

No newbuilt Frogfeet out of the Tbilissi factory. Just limted overhaul/repairs.

The only factory that can still produce a Frogfoot is the Ulan-Ude factory in Siberia which also produces the Mi-8 helicopters.

http://www.uuaz.ru/eng/production.htm

According to a number of Russian sources, recently supplied BUK (from Ukraine) is what brought down the reconaissance BACKFIRE.

I believe it would be the first combat use of this Russian made SAM.

Photo of Georgian BUK recently acquired from Ukraine.

More photos here: http://pvo.guns.ru/other/georgia/index133.htm

A US Navy F-18 was shot down by an Iraqi Mig-25 during the 1991 gulf war.

Earlier Iraqis used Mig-25s against the Iranian air force. Iraqis claim many successes (including against F-4s).

I don’t see why a Mig-25 would not take on a Phantom. It will avoid going against into a dogfight (for obvious reasons), but with its speed and ceiling advantages it will dictate if/where/when a fight will occur. BTW, at high altitude, none of these planes is maneuvrable (specialy with a load of AAMs).

The Mig-31 vs F-4 : They are not even from the same generation, not a good comparison. It is like F-15 vs Mig-21.

As for the F-106 vs Mig-21. No actual face-offs in history. The closest thing was an F-102 being shot down by a Mig-21 over Vietnam.

Putin visiting MMZ AVANGARD factory.

Can you please identify the missiles?

This one looks like the small missile on the S-300PMU-2(Favorit) ?????

This one looks like the new naval SHTIL version of the BUK????

I wonder what RS-24’s name will be …

FIDDLER….on the roof

:diablo:

If I had a war coming I would agree. But for strategic long term air force upgrades the MiGs are of no use. To specialized and still not truly effective. The would be an interim solution.
Serbia would go for new MiG-29 or Saab Gripen and get 24 of them or so, but that would require Serbia to become financially more healthy. A couple of years in the future, maybe. Even in the Balkans War the Air Force has proved to be a largely useless asset, just added a very convenient target on the NATO list (and something that can be taken out using standard NATO thinking).

The Balkans are often in turmoil. So, yes a war may be coming anytime (I hope not).

As for the past air war, the NATO air campain was a small episode of all the Balkan conflict. The Yugoslav air force Migs and Galebs were used for years during the civil war.

A refurbished Mig-27 should be good for about 10 years and their ability to carry precision guided bombs and missiles makes them a leap over the existing Mig-21, Mig-29, Orao and SuperGaleb etc.

I don’t know why some of you derailed this thread.

I think it is a typo error from a journalist (mistaking it for Mig-29). But it would make sense. Russia has a large number of stored Mig-27s (and Mig-23s and Su-22s) in flyable condition.

With minimal refurbishing they can still do a good job.

It can be a very good deal for many airforces around the world to acquire these aircraft (instead of uber-expensive shiny new ones). The Russians would probably transfer them for free and charge only for modernization/refurbishment.

I don’t see why some of you here see it as a weird acquisition.