One question, the new russian submarine do have a ‘spherical’ sonar array?, BTW can somebody tell me at which frequency the ‘sphere’ works, i got a online picture of a US sonar, as is described , it seems the LF component is composed by all these strings mounted around the ‘sphere’, while a cylindrical active sonar is under the sphere, wonder why a sonar does need to have such shape, when one hemisphere is blocked by the ship’s hull, does this thing rotate? or is a resonance box?..i still don’t understand why it need arrays over the whole surface, a link for an explanation would be welcome.

tell that to the USAF
I really would like to know which plane listed above was not vulnerable or ‘too vulnerable’ to mandpads..
Hard to say which COIN plane was the best, since some of them saw more action than others, while potentially better planes did not saw that action..
I think , IMO, the Pucara was the best COIN design ever, twin turboprop, properly designed, two seater, decently armored, and simple to operate, decent cockpit vision, not exaggerated glass bubble, and it had the right size/weight, not that heavy, not that light, and a well proven aerodynamic and structure.
This is one of these airplanes that deserve to be resurrected, although they are still operative, i think the production line is closed.

So how do you propose aviation moves forward? enlighten US since stealth is junk. Should we send 500 predators at an advanced enemy? I’m curious.
How aviation is moving forward with the stealth thing?
Tell me please a real practical application of the stealth thing for the modern aviation industry.
Check all the designs, LM? a stealthy F-15, Saab? a stealthy gripen, Sukhoi? a stealthy flanker, the F35 is based on a very conventional layout.
Has aviation moved forward? 🙂
BTW I don’t really care if the stealth spice is useful or not, is just that IS grossly overrated, and is not something that works alone, but is part of a doctrine, that involves ECM, take out the ECM and your stealth plane is worthless, if the design was focusing only on RCS reductions.
Wonder when people talk about noise levels of submarines, are they talking about a specific level at certain Hz or total noise regardless frequency.
This whole noise management can be interesting, because they are basically mechanical waves, and in different mediums , mechanical waves shift frequencies, so a certain quantity of dbs at a frequency change to other quantity of dbs at other frequency, changing transmitted medium, this thing is actually more complex than the EM stealth thing 🙂
I don’t understand either the great advantage of the pump jet concept, sure it does not seems noisy, but the immense propelled stream that would need such device to move a big massive submarine must be a immense source of LF noise, an i mean…damn immense, while it MF noise (most human perceptible) should be low…should be…
This is interesting, i can understand some of the industrial high power pumps operate at high pressure, but is because they operate in a closed circuit, i find hard to believe the local pressure of a opened axial (it seems to be axial) pump will achieve significantly better local pressure on the impeller to avoid cavitation.
Now, they could be centrifugal pumps, (but i think the cavitation for a centrifugal pump, in a open circuit should be actually worse than in a axial impeller.)
EDIT: i went wrong here, did confuse a bit the things, centrifugal should be actually good enough, although i don’t think the pump jets are based on centrifugal impeller.
In other matter, i would like to know if there are phased array sonars?
I thought the F-117 was acquired through optical search, bad mission planning and a lucky shot? Are we re-writing history here?
Lucky shot.. sure is what you want to believe…
The USAF explanation for the 117 downing was the lack of ECM coverage, serbian sources are saying that what did hit the 117 was a modification of the radar of one of their bright scientific guy, that is considered as a hero for his people…IMO this is overhiping over the overhipped stealth junk..
The truth is that every ‘stealth’ operation is done with ECM coverage, the only one where the ECM coverage failed, was the one in which the 117 was downed
Coincidence?, no is not.
There is so much crap over the stealth thing, that people invent the cellphone thing, the low frequency magic, the ‘ultra super optic device’, all that is bull… the truth is that stealth is not that stealth..
If had been by the superduper optical device thingy a lot more planes had be downed, not only 117s…
Wonder if there are news for that russian Kilo submarine with a small nuclear reactor, wonder if that reactor is used for auxiliar systems or for propullsion itself, i find a bit hard to believe is for propulsion, because it would need a decent turbine, and a complex gearing system, but then , who knows.
You forgot your crappy smilies…
Not really Witcha. Read the Article again.
The B2 is a product from the Cold war.
It capability is not really needed any more, altough nice to have.
But a what price?
Just the operation cost is sky high.USAF want a new bomber, which is smaller, two engines perhaps..
This has to do with cost, and most of all operational cost.The days for the solo ‘Deep penetration bomber’ is gone, has been for quite some while.
Different requirement but the same story, look what happed to the F-22A.I understand that for some people this comes quite shoking, but really.. try to keep up with the requirement of the future not the past.
Thanks
I must disagree
First, the B-2 was not a creation of the Cold War
Was a creation of bad engineering, wrong concepts, a political mess and the US ‘power projecting’ doctrine, is not really my interest to criticize this, I’m not a US citizen, so is not really important for me, what is important for me is the political, technological , military projected international charade…
The B-2 born as a replacement of the B1 program, the B1 main goal was to replace the B-52, bad engineering that resulted on lack of funds killed the B-1, then it was resurrected in a castrated B1B program, God knows why…
Then the B-2 born, and did not fared well, then it failed to replace the B-52, and some wise guy in Northrop or in the pentagon invented the ‘mobile ICBM hunting task’ charade to keep it alive, the b-2 was such horrible failure that even the Navy was trolling to get funds, trying to do a testing between the B-2 and the AEGIS (yes an X band radar), while Northrop did not want 🙂
But political lobbing kept it alive, and the USAF did end with 2 half-assed products (the B1B and the B2) instead of the real and original goal (B52s replacement).
Then came the nice pictures, the magazines, the powerpoint meetings and the video games, and made the B2 the most awesome bomber in the history…
The USAF still need a B52s replacement, is just that there is no money, the ‘cold war is over, we are just fighting some cavemen’ is an argument that have 2 faces and sources,
1-first the people that want resources for other programs (US civil infrastructure, education, etc), on this I don’t really care because is natural and happens everywhere
2-second, people saying the B2 is not needed anymore, but hiding the facts that the B2 is a big failure that needs to be removed, but for face saving and industrial ‘power projecting’ that people are saying the ‘fighting against cavemen’ and ‘end of cold war’ argument.
The truth, is that with or without Soviet Union, a real B52 replacement is need, because is part of the US nuclear doctrine, they need a lot of bombers because most of their nuclear force is based on submarines, bombers are the natural complement , were always the SLBMs complement for the US nuclear warfare doctrine, I won’t go deeper on this..because a bunch of kids will spam holy super accurate CEP of SLBMs that they found in the internet…
The US just ran out of resources, and they need a patch solution for their bomber fleet, these are the facts, but the USAF sis still on need for a B52 replacement.
Both are the same, direct screening over the engine, both work in the same way, just that one is a generation ahead
Russians could go as well with grills, but the industry is not using grills anymore, is using blockers, since are more practical.
Is like saying the new RAM coatings are not ram, because don’t look dark as the micro-ironballs paint
The F-117 also had a huge grill across the intakes. Are you suggesting this would be a good solution for the T-50? Radar blocker + intake grills = reduced engine air flow.
Blockers are ‘next generation’ grills, only blockers should be required, is basically the X32 solution
I think just about anybody who saw the X-32 wished for it to have a swift and painful death. 🙂 A radar blocker is a solution when you can’t come up with a better one. Given the engine location in the X-32 it was about the ONLY one that would work.
The s duct/blockers were faced in the Have Blue (that ended in the F117) competition, Northrop went with the s duct, LM went with blockers…it was a high performance contest on this field (RCS), payload , speed, maintenance, aerodynamic performance etc.. all the other requirements were ‘relaxed’ in favor for the radar performance, the RCS values were the most important thing on this contest, guess who won 🙂 .
The 32 lost because it vertical lift system , not because it RCS.
But compared to Rafale
Eurocanards were never designed around the RCS thingie..the reason why Rafale and the EF do have s duct is more related with engines performance than with radar discretion, people yell and babble over the yf-22/23 having the s-duct for the rcs thingie, but then is most likely related with engines performance as well, there was a ‘s-duct’ fashion for all planes for that generation, F22/23, EF, Rafale, s-37, Mig144, only 2 of them were designed with the RCS thing in mind, IMO, the s duct does have other function as well, probably more important than the stealth stuff.
I would not disagree. It just shows that the current prototype is just an YF-PAK if you want to say so.
I’m sorry, but this is not true, I’m sorry for the pro west/east fanboys eating fanboy books, confusing real RCS requirements with obsolete technology.
The state of this program is already advanced, this is not a YT-50, this is clearly a operative prototype, and IMO is not the only one there.
Russians did consider the whole S-duct thing, as you can see in the flateric pictures.
What they are doing with this PAKFA will be great, basically they will troll the ‘stealth’ industry and a bunch of fanboys with good engineering, the only thing that really matters, and they will achieve the same performance in the RCS field.
They won’t go with the S duct thing, they already studied it, and laughed over it, the S duct is a source of radar return, it shows more surface on exposed angles than a conventional duct, they will screen the whole thing, will they use blockers? or a grill? we don’t really know
They could even go with the same intake type of the F-23, don’t say that redesigning the intake would require a immense airframe redesign, look at the J-10B or even the F-16 with the DSI thingie.
But i really think this is the final airframe’s design.
The whole s duct ‘debate’ is fanboy regurgitation over fanboy regurgitation, and i mean from both sides
For the pro PAKFA boys, they believe the S-suct thing will decrease the ‘RCS’ of the plane, despite that for the 6th gen aircraft , Boeing was not desperate for the s duct thing and forgetting that russians did consider this whole s duct thing, they also believe microdecimal RCS levels can be achieved…
For the pro Craptor boys, they thing the F22 was meant to deal with SAMs..and actually the F35 is a ‘lesser stealth cheap plane’ that should come after the ‘sky is cleared’, because, for a weird reason SAMs do have wings…….and of course forgetting that the whole stealth thing was designed to counter SAMs and not fighters.
I tell you what is my take, probably the PAKFA won’t do the ‘stealth’ thing at full steam, but given russian numbers, the comparison between the F22 and the PAKFA should be 0.3m2 to 0.5m2 , so basically the difference is not strategically important.