The F-22 doesn’t have a delta wing anymore than the F-15 does.

anyway sferrin, you can believe what you want, that isnt my problem

sfrrin, i think that those planes are modified test planes, but that dont mean “problem solved”

the f22s big problem, is to try to use a diverse variety of concepts and techs in one airframe, at the end of the day we have an machine somewhat mediocre in all those aspects

sferrin, man you wont reduce the RCS in 40% only with that nose shape and ferropaint specially with such huge machine and at M3 speeds…..comon…

Get it right, man. The original A-11 had no chines. They were added to create the A-12 design in an effort to reduce RCS

The YF-12A was admittedly more unstable than the A-12 and SR-71, but once the ventral fins were added the remaining instability was able to be s

well, i really dont know much about the planes history, but i know about aero-design, again thats the whole point, the nose shape is an aerodynamic requirement, later changed with operative-electronics requierements, there are loooots of examples about that design, search by your self, i think that the requierement was for aero-pics not for stealth and oviusly supersonic control, also remember that one thing is a proyect (A11) an another is the operative machine.

the nose shape help in the stability with the shockwave shape, a high speed cilindrical (cone) SW is somewhat problematic, remember that the design must deal with other 2 big cilidrical SW (intakes) so the interaction could induce some problems in sustained flight

about the f22, remember ,the AoA is artifitial (TVC), not aerodynamic, like in the su27

man, i dont know if believe in that “Sorry Over G, I’m right. I ‘m an Aerospace engineer”, because your claims are pretty wrong, trapezoids has low leading edge angle, making proplems in the airflow at high speeds -in fact that could be the main reason -im not sure- of the f18 “wing drop” at transonic-, but works good at lower speed, due the better aspect and lift vector position.

the best wing for transonic subsonic is the V wing (but also that is relative)

the f22 wing isnt trapezoid, its delta, but again there are some idiots (i mean books and cororatives) that has satanised the “delta” (like canard or other words) word, the delta works good on unstable conceps, but not in the f22, due isnt a canard.

Im not engieener, but i have friends that work in the area.

anyway sundog, you can believe what you want, that isnt my problem :rolleyes:

well, i think that the stealth disscusion is endless, i just try to be scientific and objetive, but again……..what can i do…….

HF waves have an more particle behavior (by the quantum propieties), so are more easely to absorb ( thats the reason of the lower detection range of the HF radars or radios, or the red sky color on sunset), IR energy gets absorbed more easely, but again (as radar energy) the stealth tech is very overrated, like the garry “naked eye” example, but is more complicated, because in the absortion or reflection process the energy can turn in other lower frecuencies

you can reduce detection against HF radars (but not as some claims), but if you want an LF-MF precise fire control sistem, well, thats a more algorithm-math problem than a harware problem

supercruiser isnt only max SC speed, is more related with the range that can be reached at that speed -and related with relation between practical speed-range-, lift (sustained heigh-climb),etc, the M1.7 claims -if are true- are at special conditions, but is more credible that the f22 SC speed will be lower than M1.5

that discussion of the “sky color” or f117 camouflage at night is ridicoulus

So when an F-117 isn’t shot down, it’s not because the stealth design worked, but when it is shot down, it’s because the stealth design was flawed?

SOC, man,again im not saying that the 117 is an stealth sucker, but the stealth rate and capacity is overated

man, there are looooots of hypersonics designs with that nose design, the reason???…….stealth?????….noooooo, supersonic stabilization