srbin, when u talk about phoenix and of bvr it is nothing but the tomcat interceptor facet, about the PVO, i never said that was an bad organization, only very specializated, also is not an critic of the communism, the export foxbat radar missiles capacity was very limited (almost always those machines carried ir rockets)

well in fact the maneuvaribility of the mig 31/25, f14 and f15a are very similar, i agreed absolutely that the foxplanes was designed mainly (again mainly) as interceptors, obviusly those fighters-interceptors dont have chances against an f16 or Su27 in an dogfight (at least in low level), again the sucess of an combat depends on tactics.

Mere inertial momentum will not replace pure thrust

right, but thats the reason of rockets missiles…. :rolleyes:

but the missile is not going off the rails at Mach4.5,

the missile acelerates…. :rolleyes:

and even if it did, this vector-added Mach7 will die out pretty soon to settle at a maximum missile speed of Mach 4.5

missile relative speed…… :rolleyes:

assuming all goes well and there is no maneuvering, and the missile works according to specs

who can maneuvre at M3???, and that missile works according to specs is like say “if the sr71 dont have an accident”

interception depends on other factors than only speed, like sustained speed of the interceptor, heigh, etc…, but the vector speed trasfered to the missiles is very important

so…… the plane is suceptible of rays…., is very dangerously using that compositive airframe….(btw one thing is electrostatic and other ionizing plasma)

why not??? speed of plane + speed of missile = shootdown, but i dont think that the blackbird was so close

Considering how overhyped the MiG-25

the foxbat was also underrated….

well…there are other stupids miths about the subs, like that famous “crazy ivan” maneuver (that the russian navy has denied) i mean whats the problem of hunter sub to keep persecuting the bomer sub???? it canot also make an 180º turn behind the bomer???? :rolleyes: the better tactic is an quiet inmersion ( in which russian subs had certain advantage)
, that invention was the pretext of the sub collision, that in fact was the result of tactics betwen russian-american sub, the rusian entering in patrol speed (quiet) an the american deaf sonar subs -at medium/high speed- hurried to the zone of the last contact, sometimes this finished in a collision, i canot think that as much people have believed that stupidity, all for the american supremacy (btw im not supporting the ruskis -to hell with both (american-rusians), i just dont like that arrogant propaganda) 😎

But least we forget how the US and its analyst dosent forget to brag about the fact that how quite the US subs are and how they could hear a Russian subs from miles apart without the russian not even being aware of the fact that they are being tracked etc etc the story goes on.

The bad reputation of the russian subs (ssbn) in fact was by the tactics, the requierements were diferent between american- russian subs, the 60-70s russians subs just ran like hell (fast and noisly) trough the north sea at high power (thats the reason of more fast ssbn) to -believe or not- reduce the probability of detection (runing in patrol speed until reach the missile range at such distance is simply stupid),the tactic basicaly was good, the commanders knew that all the nato navy was behind the sub in the first stage but reaching patrol areas (or near) the subs were quiet in secure places.

Is funny when the people starts with the “walkers secrets”, and the russians “feared” by those revelations changed their tactics :rolleyes: , but in the 80s yankes subs even were near of the american coast :rolleyes: , even considering turn that subs in ssn :rolleyes: :rolleyes: , other funy “fact” was that the russian subs retireded to their secure “bastions”, but those “experts” dont considered the missile technology advances :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: