Well that surprise noise level start -oficially- with the victor3 class (but the yankees class in fact were quiet subs) there are an huge propaganda-interpretations in this topic

Danpatta

tailplanes are for increase the control and stabilitation of the plane, it have diferent funtions, the new designs are more fast and needs more stabilitation in high aoa the tailplanes play an very important role, also theris influence in the shape of the plane and the “vacuum shadow” (high wing and rectangular fuselage have an special effect) in manoeuvres, so is not a good idea using an single tailplane in some designs, also are useful in high speed control, but there are other reasons that depends of the whole plane design.

Interesting Rajskhalsa,

The design is basicaly good for general 5 generation requierements, but im worried by the vertical fins that although are good for stealth that design could give problems in the planes agility, also i cannot see the intakes-lower fuselage shape, i dont trust in single engine for supercruise (for me is better the use of 2 relative low powered engines) but the overall aspect is good, theris not still any draw of the pakfa?????

Hyperwarp

I didn’t see anyone really challenge his views.

I really dont care Hyper, look the scientific comunity have an polemic about the nature of the Tyranosaryus Rex, most of scientifics says that is an pretator, only one with an huge cuantifi of scientific evidences says that is an scavenging-carrion animal, i believe in the second, because he has done an objetive analysis, but the others only have that preconceived idea that an big scary-looking animal (with industry-hollywwod-media feed) isn an hunter-killer, the scientific has tried to make an open discusion about it (there have 15 years )

It seems it is not the american style stealth

what you try to say with that????? stealth is stealth in any style

about the sub question, well i think that the victor have more probabilities of detect first the LA and specialy in this scenarie, but i dont know how are the chineses subs and how are equiped, that depens of tactics and especially relative deep, but there are probabilities in wich both subs dont detect the other, the victor hide in the patrol speed-more dived, and the LA hide in the carrier noise….at the end both subs crashs 😀 😀 😀

Military logic for beginners…..bla,bla,bla,bla

Man, what i said is the real world….

The raptor is in the Semistealth classification

– It requires massive power
Right (but thats relative if the plasma is focused)

– It blinds aircraft’s own radar
Right

– It creates a glow around the aircraft

Wrong, mot people think that plasma is neon light tubes, but only some elements shine in specifis exitation-ionic energies, oxigen and nitrogen dont glow at such energies (gas-iode, neon, hidrogen, etc… does)

It has also been said that F-22 has been designed under the dual-constraint optimization problem of stealth and manuverability and is as manuverable as any other aircraft in the world

Well, the plane is not soooo agile, but it have reduced rcs (nothing out of this world), the main concept is supercruiser