Load of BS as usual from you. There are currently no missile types or launchers that could fit in three-packs in that bay.
Wake me up if you find any..

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So now the number of missile is the most important thing?
Why don’t you focus on total number of rivets, for a change? The design that has more rivets on its tail fin will be assumed decisively better than all the rest.

ok tell me how many rivet j20 and pakfa has. thanks

Vietnamese Pak-fa would look like this

an alliance with India and US would send strong signals to China that its acting against China.
I think vietnam, despite some issues, prefers a firm but friendly and mutually beneficial relationship with China and vice versa. last thing China wants is Vietnam in the US camp or a China that puts Taiwan style pressure on Vietnam.

right now major Vietnamese equipments are also found in China. Su-30MKK, Kilos, Su-27SK, etc.. could be both good and bad as China has intelligence and counter tactics on it.
also does not help that

also espionage is big issue. Chinese and can easily pass as Vietnamese and vice versa, they can do much espionage in the country and leak information on aircraf

no. chinese and vietnamese look very different. vietnamese is much darker and look like filipnio or malaysian. there is some lighter skin one but they are chinese vietnamese
see picture

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Two interesting images were posted today from the inside of CAC’s production facility: The one on top shows what looks very much like a J-20 fuselage and if it is a recent image it could be the next prototype ‘2003’. The second image below shows two J-10B together with an AL-31FN.

Again: it is not knbown how old that image is …

wow the factory is so very clean.

some factory in other country its crazy. you see grandmas working there!

f22 is 6 main bay 2 side bay
j20 6 main bay 2 side bay
f35 is 4 main bay
j31 not sure yet but likely 4-6 main bay 0 side bay.
pakfa is 4 main bay.

Not to be too late to the party, and I cannot speak for Europe, but in the U.S., most consumer goods [a very high most] are made in China. I am not also trying to bolster Chinese or anyone’s national pride, but they can meet demand at the lowest price. This is what enabled Apple to change the whole idea of a cellphone with the iPhone and lead the world in consumer electronics. Like the iPhone or not, it is a quality product and it is made in China. Be nervous when Foxconn starts making 4.5 / 5th gen fighters.

Back to the thread.

you are open minded man. but people like msphere and lightning come from old period thinking where there is racist logic in their mind. they do not think asians can surpass europeans.
almost everything is made in china now. only reason why you do not see more chinese brand in the world is because of export barrier. but that is also slowly going down. lenovo is number two in the world. they beat hp and dell and will catch up and beat apple too.

Let me know when China can copy a Rolls Royce Phantom without bolloxing it up.

you have too much bais and hate in your words. this is not china of 20 century. that is gone. welcome the new century and new thinking.
get your head out of the old one.

ASTRAC upgrade – 27 Mirage F1CH/EH upgraded to Sagem-Thales ASTRAC worth $420 million = $15.5mil a pop

Pakistan alone have expressed interest to integrate European rather than Chinese avionics. The deal fell thru due to external pressure applied on France via India but it still speaks volumes:

Beyond the initial 50 PAF JF-17s, the remaining production aircraft may feature European avionics, radars and weaponry. Pakistan has been negotiating with British and Italian defence firms regarding avionics and radars for the JF-17 during development. Some of the radar options include the Italian Galileo Avionica Grifo S7 and the French Thomson-CSF RC400 (a variant of the RDY-2), along with the MBDA MICA IR/RF short–medium range AAMs. The Vixen 500E Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar has been offered to the PAF by the British company SELEX Galileo, but the PAF may be looking for a more advanced AESA radar for the JF-17.

In early 2010 it was reported that ATE Aerospace Group had been selected by the PAF to integrate various French avionics and weapons systems which would be supplied by other partners including Thales, Sagem and MBDA. Rival bids from Astrac, Finmeccanica and a Thales-Sagem joint venture were beaten by the ATE bid to upgrade 50 JF-17, with 50 more optional, at a cost of up to 1.36 billion dollars. The upgraded aircraft would go into production in 2013. The Thales RC-400 radar and MICA AAMs, as well as various air-to-surface weaponry, are believed to be included in the contract. The PAF is also in contact with South Africa for the supply of Denel A-darter AAMs.

read news it will be good for you. pakistan now say that they are satisfied with new chinese avionic and say it is same level as french.