The Mirage 2000-9 is in a different league to JF-17 much more capable in all areas and all upgrades cost more the original sale price
Upgrading JF-17 with AESA would put the cost up to round 35 million mark and put it to close to Gripen and Mig-29M and once there anyone with half a brain will go with those airframes
When looking at the F-1 if you were starting with a ex French air frame a just over a third of ASTRAC program has already been done so if you leave out the engine mod you will probably find you have 5-6 million to spend on a airframe life extension program
lolk jf17 with aesa will be cheaper bcoz labor is cheaper in china. you need to compare orange with oragne not apple.
also gripen around 50-60 million. you can almost get 2 jf17 for one gripen!
http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=11757774@egNews
All Su-24s in the Central Military Okrug have been upgraded by Gefest.
This confirms bmpd’s info that many dozens were upgraded after performance in the 8-8-8 War. Good to see MOD finally came to its senses after years of Gefest&T languishing with several aiframes @ Lipetsk, though too bad it did not happen 10-5 years ago. Su-24 is very much on its way out as Su-34 deliveries add up.
russian say many things but it is not confirmed by chinese sources.
At what costs?
they save cost cuz they combine mrca and stealth fighter program into one. f35 can do both. so they save money and time in the long run.
f35 already being delivered to england slowly. you should know.
hey baby, retard your anger.. for some reason fanboys get upset when they hear the word j-20 and big go together.
what I said is true no matter how much you deny it. j-20 is bigger than f-22.
and no need to white wash it.. flanker is 22m and f-22 is 19m, or a 3m difference. or in other words its 72 feet and 62 feet. that is a big difference.. bigger than the difference between the hornet and super hornet.
so tired of anti china people talking how big j20 is. me and diana is right, it is smaller than flanker but can carry more and probably better range too. china have two decade to learn flanker design and learn from its mistakes and make a new efficent model!
No but the US do. Yes, the A400 is expensive, has technical issues… stuck in development for eternal life? No.
not everyone can buy us stuff. please read news.
MIG-29K flew in 2006 and delivered to IN in 2009. very normal time for export fighter. PAK-FA has alot more funding behind it. it will take less than a year to fly from aircraft carrier. see this experiance. All this data from MIG-29K flight trials will be input into any new fighter.
too bad india and china not friends. they used to be good friends for most of history until india change its position.
if the relation was good like before, china would happy to sell this to india for their carrier. it can beat any f35 or mig29 on the ship
Yeah, I can see the rest of the world dropping out of American and European programmes to buy Chinese. Sarcasm by the way.
europe not making any cargo plane the size of y20. their a400 is expensive and stuck in development for eternal life.
french upgrade is very expensive!! ask indian, upgrade cost more than the plane itself!!
for the same money you can make super jf17 with aesa and all the other stuff.
see i told everyone many time y20 will use chinese engine soon.
this is good for china because c17 is too expensive and russia decide not to make new cargo plane. market is chinas!
Lijian UCAV taxiing footage, starts from 1:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3CSUlEwSLtg
it is nice yes. i would want to sell to your country. you like?
india should just cancel and buy all f35. none of mrca aircraft give strong edge over neighbors new aircraft but f35 can.
I have really come to the conclusion that the su35 or pakfa or j20 is what argentina should go for. Not sure why anyone would by mirage f1s for anything. Those planes would cost a foot and an arm to keep operational. Even the newer m2000s would suffer the same problem.
As much as I love the jf17, too shortlegged for argentinas needs. If u buy planes, they better be for war not just parades, something argentinas present fleet does not do justice with. Might as well wear the union jack and start speaking english than keep flying these old toy planes.
only j31 or j20. pakfa cannot keep anti ship missile in the bay because the body is too narrow. that is why they have to keep two missle on the side near the wing.
su35 can do it though..but not sure i fit can beat typhoon.
lolol i laugh so hard! mirage is 30 year older than jf17!! cannot even compare the two! jf17 has dsi, fly by wire, ew, big mfd, and will carry everything in chinese inventory.
Size comparison:
comrade, do you have news on china new vstol fighter?
it would be very useful on that ship
we do not need spy information to make airplane. china can make it themself.
but need spy information to understand enemy airplane to counter.